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Date:      Fri, 2 Mar 2012 08:29:09 -0800
From:      Freddie Cash <fjwcash@gmail.com>
To:        "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Deb Goodkin <deb@freebsdfoundation.org>
Subject:   Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] Foundation Announces NAND File System for FreeBSD Project
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On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Freddie Cash <fjwcash@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Julian H. Stacey <jhs@berklix.com> wrote:
>> Hi freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
>> cc Deb
>>
>> Deb Goodkin wrote to announce@ Thu, 01 Mar 2012 11:45:53 -0700 (19:45 CE=
T):
>>> The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce that Semihalf, an
>> ...
>>
>> I was interested to read more background, but no URLs,
>> so I found http://www.semihalf.com/ & re.
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0NAND Flash File System
>> found:
>> =C2=A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#NAND_flash
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"Manufacturers try to maximize the amount of =
usable storage
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0by shrinking the size of the transistor below=
 the size where
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0they can be made reliably, to the size where =
further
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0reductions would increase the number of fault=
s faster than
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0it would increase the total storage available=
."
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-
>> =C2=A0 Really scarey if that is taken literaly, I jhs@ presume loose phr=
aseology,
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0hopefully someone who knows more will rephras=
e that :-).
>
> A good primer on NAND Flash with lots of info on "the next hot thing",
> triple-level cell (TLC) flash, which has all the flaws of MLC
> multiplied many times over, but is a lot less expensive to use/make,
> so expect it to hit consumer drives this year. =C2=A0:( =C2=A0Page 3 is
> extremely enlightening about the issues, especially regarding the
> increased CRC requirements in order to actually read a valid bit from
> the cell.

Let's try actually including the link this time:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5067/understanding-tlc-nand

--=20
Freddie Cash
fjwcash@gmail.com



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