From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 23 19:56:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3C6106564A for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from mail47.e.nsc.no (mail47.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46398FC15 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from [84.202.202.217] (084202202217.customer.alfanett.no [84.202.202.217]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail47.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m2NJu2Qc009084 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:56:02 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <47E6B552.5090003@next.online.no> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:53:54 +0100 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080229) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1206146157.6973.21.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <9CA3D4489328B8E911387EE0@Macintosh.local> <1206160383.6973.42.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <200803220724.05759.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <47E58E08.2040907@next.online.no> <20080322233254.GA5940@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <47E6208F.4020104@next.online.no> <87lk49e8oq.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <87lk49e8oq.fsf@kobe.laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: List replies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:56:05 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > [snip] > We don't accept email only from lurkers. The mailing list is also > advertized as the official place to ask questions in CD-ROMs provided by > vendors, in our documentation, on magazines, conferences, and so on. The normal thing on all other forums that I have heard of - and that includes Usenet - is that you have to go back to the forum to pick up answers to your question. The mechanism that you defend represents a break with established practice for most computer users. I have heard all the arguments many times over, and I don't buy them. I think it would be better to direct newbies to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc, which at least has a predictable interface. (For instance, you don't risk missing the rest of a discussion because someone decides to prune the headers.) > We don't want to make it _obligatory_ to subscribe, because this would > alienate users who are too new to the Internet to be familiar with > lists, subscriptions, and similar 'filtering' things. There is a touching concern for newbies in all this, which is out of step with the somewhat edgy aspect of FreeBSD that most of you seem to embrace in other connections. And the bottom line is that most newbies end up elsewhere. If making FreeBSD more popular is a priority, there is long list of issues that are more vital than this detail that we are discussing in this thread. Happy Easter! -- Tore