From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Fri Apr 7 13:08:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C9FD30505 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 13:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lukasz.wojcik@zoho.com) Received: from sender-pp-091.zoho.com (sender-pp-091.zoho.com [135.84.80.236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80CD2AE3 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 13:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lukasz.wojcik@zoho.com) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type; b=cu+0wvh+yf65bHs5pUMQBuMAgnFoZv51SIOlTnge47DRlROIfKrcs5ZqzE1Krg/aFOY7A0Ii/Osv Z/vskzCVWl/LIlmJK/VqHoXlru4mHH3M4hSp+rLcWKff9wxf88qz Received: from [192.168.1.102] (91.200.105.117 [91.200.105.117]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1491570525633508.107738410141; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 06:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Impending NATM removal To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org References: <20170406235747.GA8756@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> From: =?UTF-8?B?xYF1a2FzeiBXw7NqY2lr?= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 15:08:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170406235747.GA8756@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ZohoMailClient: External X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 13:08:56 -0000 Hi Brooks, AFAIK Prosum still manufactures PROATM155M card that utilizes patm driver (which is by the way a little bit outdated and does not support newer variants of ProSUM cards). I also have clients that still use ATM and prosum cards and FreeBSD. My guess is that they're not the only ones. Just my 5cents. The other thing is that ATM/NATM infrastructure in FreeBSD seems to never have been finished. Thanks -ŁW On 07-Apr-17 01:57, Brooks Davis wrote: > As previously threatened, I plan to remove NATM support next week. This > includes the drivers en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), and patm(4). None of > these devices have been manufactured in the last 20 years so it is time > to move on. > > The planned commit can be seen at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D9883 > > -- Brooks