From nobody Wed Oct 13 09:18:45 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F61917FFCEC for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 09:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HTn5p2Ftxz4sML for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 09:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 19D9Ijli009297 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:18:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=netfence.it; s=202108; t=1634116726; bh=buGJNNb3lKbFfzsNvIO2G+UjL+jNKmimRJrKpkxHS9g=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=aDmPFC15nQHn5sRNOGLRvXr1O2GipsaI7ZZ1GEV/Rlb+Fb+oMvj+uvsuu6vQvDXKh q8MomcrbPcqngewV/EhJOyVIy/pKo8Ws/mcAkNAx0Z2IPsMC2M7KJ1V0UUaEt3PEwV qZssOuzyY1pnSuurC3vYaXhVVKyH8qMfs8jGufug= X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be [10.1.2.18] Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:18:45 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.2.0 Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4df3c511-c549-55af-8045-86b1f8e1613f@boosten.org> <20211013090726.5u7qsy5lo2iwwjud@x1> From: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <20211013090726.5u7qsy5lo2iwwjud@x1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTn5p2Ftxz4sML X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=netfence.it header.s=202108 header.b=aDmPFC15; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[netfence.it:s=202108]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[netfence.it:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/13/21 11:07, Julien Cigar wrote: > I'm using Saltstack with https://github.com/silenius/jails-formula Thanks, I'll look into it. From the short description I think it doesn't suit my needs, but I'll look better. > What's wrong with installing a minion in each jail? Overhead, mainly. Having a lot of Salt process running consumes memory (which might be scarce in older systems). More packages to install/maintain/upgrade. Etc... > There is salt-ssh too if you don't want to install a minion Might be better, although I guess it would need enabling SSH in every jail (which is something I don't normally do). I'll look into it anyway. bye & Thanks a lot Andrea Venturoli