From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 27 06:03:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AB61065676; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502278FC0A; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so1545949iwn.13 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:03:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint :x-openpgp-key-url; bh=x6QjNs+lvsV6NBoQ3alr1n1wQXjUGgHKG9/lkpHlAuA=; b=rZEFukZAVn+UA06HQiXfbQmpi2Dez1DzzfysituFj22gAa9bBTgnkkG0xyQYo8Civk sXHG15cRcZAIpCsLvLhs1ykSsH5NS4OvvNuGD07USVfS9zEVD6TOEG5vJ1Ye7CNX1Xke rQu6l2lK8nJA/rA99/FtSOqEsMS93wufy/nHw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-openpgp-key-id :x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:x-openpgp-key-url; b=CrF1jBIBQCH2tOqe0/cLokwqjXQ5i409cQMtCZjAZpKyn+Tzf5+D986cYfWmXt+N1J g3ViXiXJIA5e72FQscjaC2+v4XgtS/vUIGNH4S5GjR6w0UekSciLLPUDHx8ldoRdCqHG +V+U3j/VcizXVF/Wzwe2Cn8xWgfSaB3JSdEWo= Received: by 10.42.150.66 with SMTP id z2mr2174846icv.462.1303884207691; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DataIX.net (adsl-99-190-84-116.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.190.84.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wu17sm182987icb.11.2011.04.26.23.03.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Received: from DataIX.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by DataIX.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p3R63MTt091408 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Apr 2011 02:03:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhell@DataIX.net) Received: (from jhell@localhost) by DataIX.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p3R63MJ6091407; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 02:03:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhell@DataIX.net) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 02:03:22 -0400 From: "Jason J. Hellenthal" To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20110427060322.GB88420@DataIX.net> References: <4DB70949.6090104@FreeBSD.org> <20110426182017.GA92471@freebsd.org> <4DB70F13.6060002@FreeBSD.org> <4DB759A1.4050201@FreeBSD.org> <20110427054218.GA88420@DataIX.net> <4DB7AED8.5070602@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ftEhullJWpWg/VHq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DB7AED8.5070602@FreeBSD.org> X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E X-OpenPGP-Key-URL: http://bit.ly/0x89D8547E Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Alexander Motin , Alexander Best Subject: Re: Why not just name the cam-ata devices the same as the old names? X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:03:28 -0000 --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:51:20PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: >On 04/26/2011 22:42, Jason J. Hellenthal wrote: >> The best possible thing you could use here is a GPT scheme for the disks >> to remain consistent across newfs's. But relying on GPT for all disks >> will not always work in situations where the disk also involves a >> operating system that does not support booting off of a GPT disk, like >> all of Windows XP and then Win7 > >Right. It's also not possible to move to gpt in existing installations=20 >where it is impossible (or impractical) to wipe the disk and start over=20 >again. Thanks for summarizing, and confirming my concerns. > >Fortunately, Alexander has already committed a transition mechanism that= =20 >should be transparent to the vast majority of our users. That will give=20 >us until 10.0 to adopt a sane labeling scheme. > Here's to looking forward! ;) --=20 Regards, (jhell) Jason Hellenthal --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://bit.ly/0x89D8547E iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNt7GqAAoJEJBXh4mJ2FR+HQkH+wbTXyiMhwl8aOmDVsQawNP3 QfPT6vd2oZRA4zCU2RRMTnkfYPyUH1mzNZEUUXMOF/hrgXuW+UbFYP2+qWMiXuPs HaBSC1ebv+gt9R2fh/7fjtydIKd+f/+nhDXN3fL/JHNIMJjvGTHp2N3G7QQSQGrs JNDyQrIzj6YzA73w7SDtdAaiwNrVSwGe+b4zBJhHNWJ+cGau2SemUh/pDuSs7yfa dW4Z2S1qtDD7Y5QyM4B8eN9YPmLopui47jZHomOURowSTRQzfgePstbh1WIBh9dn nEI/gM0+VX12MbcR2ply9GYvu2AkdqvTYOrr+gucOTRij22YexOUc8Ggswu4TPE= =acK+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq--