From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 12 11:36:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29871 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:36:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from greeves.mfn.org (greeves.mfn.org [204.238.179.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29792 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:36:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sysadmin@mfn.org) Received: from noc.mfn.org (noc.mfn.org [204.238.179.35]) by greeves.mfn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA12588; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:35:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from sysadmin@mfn.org) Received: by noc.mfn.org with Microsoft Mail id <01BDADC3.C8F63AD0@noc.mfn.org>; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 18:35:03 +0100 Message-ID: <01BDADC3.C8F63AD0@noc.mfn.org> From: NOC-GFX To: "'Thomas Dean'" Cc: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RTFM Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 18:35:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please refer to the Manual, Section 25, Subsection 1, Paragraph 2, "Please read the charter before joining or sending mail to any list." And Section 25, Subsection 1.3 et seq. "List Charters", from which I quote: "...Ongoing irrelevant chatter *OR FLAMING* (emphasis added) only detracts from the value of the mailing list for everyone on it..." Or how about Section 25, Subsection 1.3, Paragraph 4: "Personal attacks...and gross breaches of netiquette, LIKE EXCERPTING OR REPOSTING PRIVATE MAIL (emphasis added)..." If you want to continue this, then take it BACK off-list, where it started. I'm done with this in public, regardless of your desires. Try practicing what you preach. J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org ---------- From: NOC-GFX Sent: Sunday, July 12, 1998 6:18 PM To: sysadmin@mfn.org; 'Thomas Dean' Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Testing Connectivity, Please IGNORE Consider this: We have already traded mails privately on the RTFM thing, but, since you want it to be public, here goes. This list is "Freebsd-QUESTIONS". Get it? People *ASK QUESTIONS* here. That why it's *called* questions. Your fixed response of "Read the Handbook, Part X, Chapter Y, Subsection Z, Paragraph Z.xyz" does NOT provide everything that is needed when someone asks a question here. People are NOT always going to read the manual. Sometimes they read it, but don't see it, even if it's there. Maybe it's there, but they don't know *where* to look for it. This is forum of interactive "SUPPORT". *NOT* a self-appointed "Pompous Guardian of the Manual" glee club. If you don't like the fact that people ask questions which have answers somewhere else, then you should NOT follow -questions! A Friendly Answer will do more than a Technically-Correct one. Now, to repeat what I said earlier, *off-list*: Stick It. J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org ---------- From: Thomas Dean Sent: Sunday, July 12, 1998 6:59 PM To: sysadmin@mfn.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Testing Connectivity, Please IGNORE Obviously, someone cannot read the manual. > From: NOC-GFX > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 17:45:33 +0100 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Stick your RTFM... > > ---------- > From: Thomas Dean > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 1998 6:08 PM > To: sysadmin@mfn.org > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Testing Connectivity, Please IGNORE > > > Sorry, but I *had* to use -questions. For some reason I had not received > ^^^^^ > READ THE HANDBOOK at www.freebsd.org/handbook, part 5, section 27.1, > sub-section 27.1.2. > > Look at the paragraph about majordomo help. After you get help from > majordomo, you will understand why you did not need to send test > messages to -questions. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message