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Date:      Mon, 09 Sep 2024 20:26:34 +0000
From:      "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To:        fvalasiad <fvalasiad@proton.me>
Cc:        "theraven@freebsd.org" <theraven@FreeBSD.org>, "ske-89@pkmab.se" <ske-89@pkmab.se>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: The Case for Rust (in any system)
Message-ID:  <202409092026.489KQYNL088354@critter.freebsd.dk>
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fvalasiad writes:

> Codebases out there using C++ as if its C with classes, completely out o=
f
> the loop regarding modern technologies. And I am talking about userland =
here.

There are two cases here.

But here we are talking about bringing an existing mature C codebase
into the Century of the Fruitbat, without doing a total rewrite in
one go.

The first step is to get (relevant parts of) the code into a C++ compiler.

Steps two to N are:

Reap tangible benefits by employing features of C++ language as that
becomes possible and sensible (ie: as the C++ specific runtime
environment becomes available).

"C with classes" is a very sensible step along that (long) journey IMO.

But if we were talking a new green-field project that would be utterly sil=
ly.

Poul-Henning


PS: C++ was called "C with classes" first time I heard about it in 1985 :-=
)

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