From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Mar 15 17:18:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from threespace.com (server44.aitcom.net [208.234.0.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E249D37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 17:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from vwinxp.threespace.com (ip68-11-176-217.br.no.cox.net [68.11.176.217]) by threespace.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07565 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 20:23:11 -0500 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020315190230.01b2a4f8@threespace.com> X-Sender: tech@threespace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 19:18:11 -0600 To: FreeBSD Chat From: Chip Morton Subject: Re: Free BSD In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020315181331.01b26160@threespace.com> <20020314204235.L152-100000@pogo.caustic.org> <15505.28725.937368.158235@guru.mired.org> <20020314204235.L152-100000@pogo.caustic.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020315181331.01b26160@threespace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:35 PM 3/15/2002, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > [...] I know > > that he's written his thoughts/experience in his book, but why not > > give us an implementation to show the uneducated masses his superior > > methodology at work? > >He did - he designed the original MacOS GUI. His opinion of MacOS X >is probably more than slightly tainted by bitterness at having his >baby replaced by somebody else's baby. Yeah, I kinda figured there might be some sour grapes in there. But rather than bitch about the 70-some-odd "inhumane" window managers shipping with FreeBSD and Linux, he should create his own wm and throw it in--let the crowd decide what's what. Even if he created some nice skins for Windows XP or Mac OS X, I'd be interested to know how many people were satisfied with his one-bit monochrome GUI. And speaking of monochrome, I have to speak up for the eye-candy fanatics out there. Too often I see high-color graphics pooh-poohed as frivolous in serious computing tasks, but while it may not be essential to the task at hand it does add to the enjoyment some people get from using their systems. (I'm assuming that I'm not the only one who feels that way. And based on the number of pretty window managers out there, I'm sure I'm not.) I wasn't using FreeBSD for a good long time because Linux had a prettier default installation, but KDE2 brought me back. (And I still don't see what Opera has over Konqueror.) Yes, I would rather ride in the candy-coated, rimmed-up sports car. Yes, I'd rather talk to the pretty bank teller. Yes, I am shallow sometimes, but hey, life is short. ;-) << Chip Morton >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message