Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:40:23 +0000 From: Paul Stuffins <paul.stuffins@ravexdata.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian Message-ID: <5665A867.2090707@ravexdata.com> In-Reply-To: <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> References: <CAO-kBwffucnPVphm_ajbtAejjFiAv_Cp%2Bv7jZ-xCTX7YTqk36w@mail.gmail.com> <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <CAA2O=b_p-HPx%2BpPyFOgJMe02d5xrJe_aXJ8ZG9z%2BdHZCNwh91Q@mail.gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org>
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On 07/12/2015 15:03, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 2015/12/07 14:23, Anton Sayetsky wrote: >> 2015-12-07 16:21 GMT+02:00 Malcolm Matalka <mmatalka@gmail.com>: >>> Paul Stuffins <freebsd@ravexdata.com> writes: >>> >>>> Hi Everybody, >>>> >>>> Over the last couple of years I have tried many times to dump Debian and >>>> move to FreeBSD, but every time I have succumbed to Debian's charms and not >>>> stuck with FreeBSD. >>>> >>>> One of my main frustrations is upgrading installed ports, on Debian I just >>>> need to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", but I have never >>>> been able to work out how to upgrade installed ports. >>>> >>>> As 2016 is fast approaching I want to finally move to FreeBSD and stay with >>>> FreeBSD, so my question is, what is the best or most efficient way of >>>> upgrading all ports on a FreeBSD machine? >>> Use 'pkg' instead. pkg update and pkg upgrade >> pkg will update _packages_, not ports. > ... and a package is what you get by compiling a port. Yes, there is a > difference, but the two things are often conflated and it isn't worth > muddying the waters by insisting on exactingly precise terminology from > people new to FreeBSD. It is clear enough what they mean -- their aim > is to get some software installed or upgraded. > > To the OP: try using pkg(8). You can use the default FreeBSD > repositories pretty simply -- the config comes pre-canned with the > system. All you need to do is bootstrap pkg(8), like so: > > # pkg bootstrap > > (Yes, you're using a command called 'pkg' to install another command > called 'pkg'. Confusing, but if you read pkg(7) it explains the rationale.) > > Now you can use pkg(8) to install software: > > # pkg install nginx > > which does what you expect -- downloads packages for nginx and > everything nginx needs to be able to run and installs them. Unlike > Debian, FreeBSD doesn't provide a pre-canned configuration or > automatically start up the nginx service: you're expected to write your > own nginx.conf and to update /etc/rc.conf to make nginx automatically > start on reboots. > > You can upgrade anything that's out of date by: > > # pkg upgrade > > and you can remove a package you no-longer want by: > > # pkg delete nginx > > followed by: > > # pkg autoremove > > which will delete anything that was installed solely to allow nginx to > work, and not also required by any other software you've installed since. > > There's a lot more to pkg(8) than that short introduction, but really > the install, upgrade and delete actions are enough to get you going. > > The biggest gotcha you will find with pkg(8) is when you need some > software compiled with something other than the default set of port > options. In which case, you'll probably want to start compiling that > port yourself. But that's a question for another day. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > Hi Matthew, Thanks for the explanation, I will have a look at using pkg. Thanks Paul
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