From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 06:09:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C5C16A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:09:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhub1.uq.edu.au (mailhub1.uq.edu.au [130.102.148.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CEE43D41 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:09:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@irt-joel.its.uq.edu.au) Received: from smtp2.uq.edu.au (smtp2.uq.edu.au [130.102.5.53]) by mailhub1.uq.edu.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9I69HTd086722 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:09:17 +1000 (EST) Received: from irt-joel.its.uq.edu.au (irt-joel.its.uq.edu.au [130.102.152.47]) by smtp2.uq.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9I69G1V013438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:09:16 +1000 (EST) Received: from irt-joel.its.uq.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by irt-joel.its.uq.edu.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9I69Gds020390 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:09:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from joel@irt-joel.its.uq.edu.au) Message-Id: <200410180609.i9I69Gds020390@irt-joel.its.uq.edu.au> To: gnome@freebsd.org From: j.hatton@its.uq.edu.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <20388.1098079756.1@irt-joel.its.uq.edu.au> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:09:16 +1000 Sender: joel@irt-joel.its.uq.edu.au X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 on UQ Mailhub Subject: Behaviour of ctrl key sequences in firefox-1.0PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:09:19 -0000 Hi, I work with Eric, and am the other person using thunderbird and encountered the login problem - thanks for getting back to him so quickly! We're in the process of re-upgrading thunderbird as I speak. I've lately portupgraded to firefox-1.0PR and I have found a couple of what for me are serious usability issues. I cannot say if these are linked, but the behaviour seems to indicate it. First, I can no longer use ctrl-u, ctrl-a, ctrl-e, ctrl-k and so on in the URL field, or any other text input field. Additionally, any movement input using neither arrow keys nor the usual emacs ctrl key sequences is possible in text input fields. Although the latter issue seems more serious on the surface, I'm sure it is just a bug and will be easily fixed - it is the loss of key bindings for ctrl that is causing me real angst. This causes me real problems with pasting from other applications (I'm on FreeBSD 5.3BETA7), as I would usually select some text in the shell, click into the URL field, ctrl-u, middleclick paste and so on. Needless to say, ctrl-u now produces something entirely unwanted, and attempting to paste with ctrl-v leaves me with the problem of removing the old text and highlighting replaces what is in the mouse buffer! Basically, my only option is to backspace over the entire line - not fun... What I'm a little concerned about philosophically, going forward, is whether this adoption of Microsoft key bindings will continue as this appears to be at odds with the mouse select/paste model in X - something I'm very fond of, and one of my primary reasons for preferring to work in X rather than with MS windows. At present, I am using Mozilla 1.7 as a workaround as I found it impossible to work happily without the simple ability to kill text from and move within an input field. best regards, -- Joel Hatton Incident Response Team University of Queensland