From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 7 14:10:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E0437B401 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail2.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD6643E77 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:10:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: from sydsmtp01.alcatel.com.au (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alcanet.com.au (8.12.4/8.12.4/Alcanet1.3) with ESMTP id g97LAMu9016928; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 07:10:28 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au ([139.188.20.247]) by sydsmtp01.alcatel.com.au (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.11) with ESMTP id 2002100807102080:7130 ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 07:10:20 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g97LAK2t080012; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 07:10:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g97LAKpY080011; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 07:10:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 07:10:20 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Mark Murray Cc: Paul Mather , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any users of matcd(4), mcd(4), or scd(4)? Message-ID: <20021007211020.GG495@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Murray , Paul Mather , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20021007141449.GB7485@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <200210071548.g97FmTih015257@grimreaper.grondar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200210071548.g97FmTih015257@grimreaper.grondar.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on SYDSMTP01/AlcatelAustralia(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 08/10/2002 07:10:20 AM, Serialize by Router on SYDSMTP01/AlcatelAustralia(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 08/10/2002 07:10:28 AM, Serialize complete at 08/10/2002 07:10:28 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-Oct-07 16:48:28 +0100, Mark Murray wrote: >> I can appreciate matcd being dropped for 5.0 on pragmatic grounds, but >> it would have been nice to have it ride out the rest of 4.x, given that >> it actually works right now. (As I understand it, it's the adoption >> of GEOM that signalled the death knell of these old drivers, but GEOM >> is a 5.x feature that wouldn't be MFC'd back to 4.x...) > >Matcd was dropped because it had an unfriendly license. One that was >impossible to comply with legally. Possibly there is a license issue. I agree that it's somewhat more restrictive than I'd like. However, there is no mention of any licensing problems in the commit messages deleting it: It was deleted from -current with the message: :Alas, poor matcd, I knew ye well. : :It doesn't work. :It cannot be made to work. :Goodbye. : :X-MFC after: ASAP And from -stable with the message: :" Help! Help, scottl is trying to *BANG* *BANG* *BANG*" :" Hello? Hello? Are you still there?" : :Approved by: re (rwatson) Neither of these messages contain any suggestion that there is/was a licensing issue. The only discussion here indicated that matcd(4) and friends needed some work to make them work with -current and support would be dropped unless someone came forward to undertake said work. (And I'm sure I saw at least one offer). There was an explicit statement that these drivers would continue to be supported under 4.x. Then, out of the blue and with no discussion here, scottl deletes the driver. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message