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Date:      Thu, 13 Aug 2020 18:12:05 +0200
From:      "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen@punkt.de>
To:        Mario Lobo <lobo@bsd.com.br>
Cc:        freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD a server and bhyve
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Hi Mario,

> Are you still using freeNAS or have you switched to TrueNAS?

They are one and the same product.

Version 11.3 is named FreeNAS
Version 12.0 is named TrueNAS Core

TrueNAS Core is currently in beta testing. I use it at home but have not
yet updated our company production systems.

I will as soon as there is an official release.

> Do you favor the switch or stick with FreeNAS?

As I said, there is no switch.

> Are they both ZFS only?

Yes, of course. They are the same thing.

> I haven't used either of them but I want to experiment with it.

If you are just starting, IMHO don=E2=80=99t shy away from the beta =
version.
I run it in power-user/semi-professional production: file sharing,
5 VMs, 6 jails, most with Internet facing applications, simply great.

The main advantage is that FreeNAS <=3D11.3 has always had issues when
FreeBSD versions reached their EOL due to the development model.

FN 11.3 is based on FreeBSD RELENG_11_3. As soon as that reaches end
of support, so will parts of FN 11.3. While iXsystems will still publish
patches, you will e.g. have a hard time to install packages inside of
FreeBSD 11.3 jails. FreeBSD 11.4 jails OTOH are not guaranteed to
run on the older kernel. Our experience has been that they do run OK
but things like =E2=80=9Eps=E2=80=9C or =E2=80=9Enetstat=E2=80=9C might =
not work properly inside the
newer jail on the old kernel.

TN Core 12.0 despite the =E2=80=9E12.0=E2=80=9C tracks FreeBSD =
RELENG_12. So it will
continue to get updates of FreeBSD unless the complete 12.x branch
will reach its EOL. So TN Core 12.0 is on FreeBSD 12.1, currently and
will be on 12.2, eventually. If you run web facing applications in jails =
you
get TLS 1.3 - yay! :-)

Confusing? Not so much if you are familiar with the FreeBSD development
and release model. I appreciate the move to RELENG_X instead of =
RELENG_X_Y.
Very much so.

HTH,
Patrick
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