From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jan 11 1:38:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2064B37B419 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:38:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B7D4566D43; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:38:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:38:31 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Michel TALON Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GNU GRUB folks need BSD hackers Message-ID: <20020111013831.A17989@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20020111103159.A46044@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020111103159.A46044@lpthe.jussieu.fr>; from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr on Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 10:31:59AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 10:31:59AM +0100, Michel TALON wrote: > Kris Kennaway on 2002-01-10 (Thu) at 12:13:47 -0800: > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 12:48:40PM +0200, Johann Visagie wrote: > > > Just noticed this, FWIW: > > > > > > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/#bsd > > > > > > "We really need help by BSD hackers. Currently, almost nobody works = for > > > BSD-based operating systems, such as FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD. = So > > > we have critical problems in booting later versions of NetBSD and > > > OpenBSD. FreeBSD is not a big problem, because GRUB can boot it via > > > /boot/loader for now." > > > > Well, that's how you're _supposed_ to boot FreeBSD.=20 >=20 > >Puzzled me as well. >=20 > The point is that grub is able to boot FreeBSD by booting /boot/loader > first, but is not able to boot directly the OpenBSD kernel (and > presumably the NetBSD kernel) while it was able to do it some months ago. Yeah, I appreciate that it doesn't work for OpenBSD or NetBSD, but it sounds like it's doing exactly the right thing on FreeBSD. Under FreeBSD if you boot the kernel directly from boot2 then it doesn't load the symbol table and you get missing symbols from libkvm at runtime for things like top and vmstat. Kris --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8PrKWWry0BWjoQKURAlXPAJoC+8RPZjgb8BWEEUJUrhpthjbZvQCeMD6k qys1u208SYpnzvER2JWYvSA= =YvoH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message