From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 14:34:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3A716A4CF for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:34:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail3.speakeasy.net (mail3.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE7C43D76 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:34:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 3873 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2004 22:34:10 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 20 Jan 2004 22:34:10 -0000 Received: from 10.50.40.205 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0KMY0M4015071; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:34:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: Scott Long Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:34:34 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <200401201502.18549.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <400DA085.7080007@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <400DA085.7080007@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401201734.34358.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: Makoto Matsushita cc: stable@FreeBSD.org cc: ru@FreeBSD.org cc: re@FreeBSD.org cc: will@csociety.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:34:47 -0000 On Tuesday 20 January 2004 04:41 pm, Scott Long wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > > On Monday 19 January 2004 05:58 am, Makoto Matsushita wrote: > >>list> What about splitting the floppies? Splitfs support is already on > >>list> the 4.9-RELEASE disks. > >> > >>That would be a viable option, but the great downside of using splitfs > >>is that all of splitted chunks are required for all users. > >> > >>In the current configuration, drivers.flp is an option; if you don't > >>need to use modules in drivers.flp, you only need two floppies. If > >>the kernel and/or mfsroot image are splitted into, say, three > >>floppies, we have to have three floppies. > >> > >>Yes, floppies are so cheap to buy, but sometimes not handy you know. > >>I believe that some of my friends said to me that "hey, I'm so tired > >>to write THREE floppy images, it's so slow!" > >> > >>It would be technically easy to introduce splitfs for kernel/mfsroot > >>(it is already there), but it also introduce an important design change. > >>We should have enough time to consider that we decide the 3rd floppy > >>image treats a mandatory one. > > > > I have splitfs done in a p4 tree. Currently for i386 on current it takes > > up 3 floppies. One more floppy image is not all that bad, and it removes > > all the kernel module complication. This is using a GENERIC kernel, so > > it greatly simplifies release building and requires no more tweaking of > > BOOTMFS to make stuff "just fit". I'm currently doing some final testing > > before committing it to HEAD as I've occasionally had problems with the > > split images being loaded off of floppy. I added a md5 command to the > > loader today and it verified that the mfsroot and kernel were read ok, > > however. I have this bad feeling that there is some kind of memory > > corruption bug in the loader and that the problem goes away if you use a > > loader that has forth in it. > > This is excellent work. Thanks a lot. We should even be able to turn Alpha floppies back on now with no worries. :) -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org