From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 19 19:15:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A4316A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:15:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.itknowledge.ch (static-195-073.catv.glattnet.ch [80.242.195.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0398543D58 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:15:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from black@black.ch) Received: from mail.itknowledge.ch (Not Verified[10.0.1.100]) by smtp.itknowledge.ch with NetIQ MailMarshal (v6,0,3,8) id ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:15:18 +0100 Received: from [172.31.150.249] ([217.162.70.152]) by mail.itknowledge.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:16:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20050111174816.G41185@pemaquid.safeport.com> References: <20050106232123.AC3BA16A4D2@hub.freebsd.org> <20050108055611.GA27077@panix.com> <20050108115902.S50168@pemaquid.safeport.com> <20050111174816.G41185@pemaquid.safeport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=fixed Message-Id: <80B71752-6A4E-11D9-93A7-000A95C6157C@fischerman.ch> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ronny Fischer Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:15:38 +0100 To: doug@safeport.com X-Pgp-Rfc2646-Fix: 1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2005 19:16:16.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[58F448E0:01C4FE5B] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATi and Xorg Troubles in FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:15:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug A short update ;-) I have uninstalled Xorg an installed XF86 from the FreeBSD ports (was quite tricky because the XF86 ports are not on the official freebsd server's) But, All in all the same situation at the first start with XF86, 1024x480, 8 bit colour. Then I configured XF86 with the GUI version of xf86cfg (easier to choose the drivers as in the CLI version ;-) After this I shutdown and restart X and the I had 800x600 with 16 Bit. So this is enough for me, I am quite happy with my FreeBSD 5.3 WindowMaker locks a little bit strange but is is fast and stable. If I find the time, I will try to tune XF86 to 1024x480. If I have News about it, I drop ya a Mail. and btw : If you have slow computers, try windowmaker. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/pkg-descr Fast, needs not a lot of resources and easy to customize. I love it ;-) Thanx a lot, HAVE FUN and with my best regardz Ronny < /EndOfTransmission > Am 12.01.2005 um 00:15 schrieb doug@safeport.com: As to good ideas Ronnie, I do not think so, but here are some things you may not have tried: Since you found me you probably have already gone the Google route but if you have not try your exact configuration. Try the FreeBSD mobile and hardware lists. Freshports may help with Xorg as well as XFree86 XFree86 has the advantage of better documentation about bugs, at least currently. Try their resource page. The development snapshots list pretty specifically what was fixed in each snapshot. You can download binaries for FreeBSD and these are pretty quick to install (10-15 mins after the first one). The XFree86 newbie list is pretty helpful; subscribe and post your question there. If any of the above works, I would then drop back to 4.11 unless you do not mind using ports (rather than packages). My Unix workstations and laptops are far too slow to consider building X or KDE. BTW if the above is wrong I would sure like to be clued in. Aside from the fact that the packages are built with Xorg, some of the low level dependencies have mutually exclusive version dependencies. Portupgrade may allow the use of packages by rewriting the dependencies. I would think Xorg and XFree are still compatible at the BPI level. Because of processor speed I can start from scratch and build my laptop 4-5 times before Qt would finish building. On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Ronny Fischer wrote: > Hi there > > I have updatet to > xorg-server-6.8.1_1 X.Org X server and related programs via FreeBSD > Ports.. > > ..but it is still not possible to get more the 8 bit color on the sony > c1ve. > the vesa driver is fine in 640x480 but it is not possible to have it > with 1024x480 on this machine... > > any other ideas ? > could it work with xfree86 instead of xorg ? > > thanx a lot, > HAVE FUN and > with my best regardz > ronny > > > > Am 08.01.2005 um 18:14 schrieb doug@safeport.com: > > Thanks Joe I will try to upgrade. My experience was the same, in that > the > problem tracked X (both projects) across several levels of 4.x and 5.x. > > The vesa drive works okay, but I miss the larger screen and better font > rendering. > > > On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Joe Altman wrote: > >> Doug, Ronny... >> >> I'm running 4.11 with xorg 6.8.1, built from source on December 28, >> 2004 >> using a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x on an IBM ThinkPad A20m. I have a >> default >> depth of 24 bits, and a resolution of 1024x768. I am using the ati >> driver. >> >> Ronny: I see that the query is for 5.3, but I thought that perhaps my >> experience would indicate that the ATI chip seems to work fine w/ the >> most >> recent version of xorg; or rather, the source as it existed on >> December >> 28th. >> >> Doug: I remember that you and I encountered the same issue, back in >> September or thereabouts, WRT the ATI chip? I'm happy to report what >> is >> above: it seems to be safe to use the ati driver w/ the newest source >> for >> xorg and the chip in question. >> >> HTH, best regards, >> >> Joe >> > > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > doug@safeport.com > Voice: 301-469-8766 > Fax: 301-469-0601 > > Beschtae Dank, > HAFE FUN und > mit aemae Gruaess > Ronny > ----------------------------------- > http://the.fischerman.ch > mailto:info@fischerman.ch > ----------------------------------- > < /EndOfTransmission > > > > ####################################################################### > # > This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and > cleared > by NetIQ MailMarshal, the e-mail content security solution > ####################################################################### > # > ------------ Output from pgp ------------ > Signature by unknown keyid: 0x5E41EEFB > > _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQe6x3cAf475eQe77EQIzmgCg9gh4sup7Z/G0W0AOcVOz+O5+ZawAn12j HXm5Rve0mdyopRCs9z7rH026 =2+jM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ######################################################################## This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by NetIQ MailMarshal, the e-mail content security solution ########################################################################