From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Feb 3 16:46:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D76837B401 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:46:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from picard.skynet.be (picard.skynet.be [195.238.3.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C402A43FA7 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:46:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip-26.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.26] (may be forged)) by picard.skynet.be (8.12.7/8.12.7/Skynet-OUT-2.21) with ESMTP id h140kLHn015791; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 01:46:25 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3E3EACA8.D3C4310F@mindspring.com> References: <200302031346.34040.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> <3E3EACA8.D3C4310F@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:48:46 +0100 To: Terry Lambert From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: oh my god the nasa shuttle blewup Cc: Brad Knowles , JacobRhoden , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 9:53 AM -0800 2003/02/03, Terry Lambert wrote: > The bad guys do not need a handbook on how to think about getting > around the (obvious, after analysis) holes in security and other > protocols at NASA, or airports, nor do they need suggestions on how > to perform their acts successfully. I worked for over five years at the Pentagon. One lesson I learned early is that there is no scheme you or I or anyone else can come up with that the bad guys haven't probably already thought of. It is the duty of people who consider themselves to be good guys to come up with every single whacked-out idea they can, bring them up (albeit in the proper channels) and let them be analyzed and categorized, and if considered to be a serious threat, then obviously someone will be responsible for doing something to try to at least detect that type of attack before it occurs or to lessen the potential effects of such an attack. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message