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Date:      Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:45:34 -0500
From:      Photon Blizzard <photon@ionet.net>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org
Subject:   Why the list then?
Message-ID:  <37E318EE.75F915AF@ionet.net>

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Sue Blake wrote:

>                          FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit
>
>    (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list.
>    It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/)

>
>    FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions
about
>    installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help
requests
>    are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions.
>
>    FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer
how-to
>    questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies.

*Stuff deleted*

Greetings Sue!

Heck, I'm surprised it took you so long to post the list's charter
considering
the recent activity! :-)

And to try to remain on-topic, I would like to say that I think the BSD
news on the website has a really cute gif of 'Beastie' or 'Chuck' or
whatever with the Daemons little tennis shoed foot up on the table
suckin' on a Pepsi Cola or whatever.  They've got a lotta' really
swell T-Shirts and other nifty stuff at 'www.freebsd.mall' too!  I even
have my very own FreeBSD T-Shirt!  Cool, huh!

Okay, now the real deal.  I understand that this is not a technical
list,
that it is not intended for installation issues, that these questions
should
be posted to questions, or whatever appropriate list.  If the previous
paragraph does not appeal to anyone, (even you..), then just kill the
list
or change the lists charter.  'Questions' is the last list that a brand
new
BSD user will get an answer from, and apparently, even asking questions
from this list will get mostly negative 'I am Super Geek! No Stupidity
Tolerated' results.

And I have a confession to make, I am currently running Linux.
EEEKKK!!!!  :-)  For general 'Defeat the evil Bill Gates'  OS it is much

easier for 'userland' apps than anything else.  (Not that near-do-well
evil
clone RedHat, but Slackware).  On this same machine I have Virus 95',
(primarily for printing), Slackware Linux 4.0 and FreeBSD 2.8.8.

If I want to play in userland, I use Linux, if I wan't to have a solid
net
connection with the 7 machines on my net here at home I use FreeBSD.
It is undeniably the best beast for solid networking. :-)

Since 1983 or so, I've run MicroPort Unix, SCO Xenix, ISC SVR3, yada,
yada, yada.  And I wouldn't know a line of 'C' code if it bit me on the
leg!

I'm a hobbyist.  The first machine I ran an X-Nix OS on was a Sanyo
8086 system that shipped by default with CP/M.  (Crashed every 30
seconds or so...) :-)

Okay...  Ain't I neat mode disengaged.

Point is, where the heck can a "Newbie" go to get very basic install
help for FreeBSD?  I am not trying to be negative, but this list seems
to attract newbies wanting to ask newbie questions, but the questions
are technically outside the lists charter.  So why is it here?

Be well, and much happiness!

Michael








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