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Date:      Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:54:49 -0700
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>
To:        Michael MacLeod <mikemacleod@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Michael Pounov <misho@elwix.org>
Subject:   Re: Multiroute question
Message-ID:  <505C0129.50202@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAM-FeoF5AjePpP_-yV6xh2Oea24d-EOuEoS_k4VSp6_7NYBMug@mail.gmail.com>
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On 9/20/12 10:25 AM, Michael MacLeod wrote:
> Actually, multiple routing tables is the correct solution. I 
> documented it here: 
> http://www.mmacleod.ca/blog/2011/06/source-based-routing-with-freebsd-using-multiple-routing-table/ 
> >From the post: "... But route-to and reply-to do not trump the 
> default routing table for traffic that originates or terminates on 
> the router itself. They are useful only for traffic passing through 
> the router. pf can only make routing decisions when a packet passes 
> through an interface. It can try and set the reply-to interface to 
> be the second WAN connection when an inbound SSH connection is made, 
> but neither the SSH daemon nor the routing table on the host know or 
> care about the routing preferences of pf." On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 
> 11:01 AM, Michael Pounov <misho@elwix.org> wrote:
>
hi,
not a bad article..
a couple of things...

firstly, though it's not relevent to THIS case, you can assign
differnet fibs to different sockets on the same process, so
theoretically a single sshd instance could do both tasks.
The question is "how does it know which to use?" without extending
sshd to add more config options for that, we have just a few
possibilities..
Firstly, all sockets inherit their fib from that assigned to the
process, but what if we didn't assign one to the process, but let the
sockets take on the fib assigne to the packets of the incoming
request? The packets in turn can get a fib from two sources: policy,
via pf, or the ipfw setfib command, OR from the interface. as we can
now assign a fib to an interface and packets coming in on that
interface will take on the fib of the incoming interface. The only
missing part of this is the code that lets teh process's fib float in
the wind.
I was considering setting this like: setfib -N sshd blah....
where -N would be expressed within the kernel as fib -1.

In the socket code that would be inherited, and we would add code in
the listen/accept code of the sockets so that when it discovers the
socket is assigned fib -1, it switches it over to the fib of the
incoming SYN packet (or whatever protocol).

I've been meaning to a this ever since I added multifib support.
It may require a small amount of code in every protocol (a line or two 
of C)


This would allow us to make unmodified arbitrary networking servers
work correctlty in multihomed systems.






from man ifconfig:
     fib fib_number
              Specify interface FIB.  A FIB fib_number is assigned to all
              frames or packets received on that interface.  The FIB 
is not
              inherited, e.g. vlans or other sub-interfaces will use the
              default FIB (0) irrespective of the parent interface's 
FIB.  The
              kernel needs to be tuned to support more than the 
default FIB
              using the ROUTETABLES kernel configuration option, or the
              net.fibs tunable.

from man ifpw:
    setfib fibnum | tablearg
              The packet is tagged so as to use the FIB (routing 
table) fibnum
              in any subsequent forwarding decisions.  Initially this 
is lim-
              ited to the values 0 through 15, see setfib(1). 
Processing con-
              tinues at the next rule.  It is possible to use the 
tablearg key-
              word with a setfib. If tablearg value is not within 
compiled FIB
              range packet fib is set to 0.

from man setsockopt
    SO_SETFIB can be used to over-ride the default FIB (routing table) for
      the given socket.  The value must be from 0 to one less than the 
number
      returned from the sysctl net.fibs.

see also:    setfib(1), setfib(2),  setsockopt(2)







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