From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 9 05:05:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8AC16A41C; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 05:05:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3CE43D1D; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 05:05:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5955N4J041038 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:05:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with UUCP id j5955NMW041037; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:05:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from titan.klemm.apsfilter.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.apsfilter.org (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j58LC3so021054; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:12:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by titan.klemm.apsfilter.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j58LC33M021048; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:12:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:12:03 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Message-ID: <20050608211203.GA10649@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> References: <20050608145053.B10686@zoraida.natserv.net> <1118256882.76070.0.camel@server.mcneil.com> <20050608203513.GA2265@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> <20050608210343.GB64736@over-yonder.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050608210343.GB64736@over-yonder.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: FreeBSD amd64 List , Andreas Klemm Subject: Re: Top broken in AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 05:05:35 -0000 On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 04:03:43PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:35:13PM +0200 I heard the voice of > Andreas Klemm, and lo! it spake thus: > > > > I'd say normally you should expect to see what processes within > > delta t led to 0.0% idle. > > How would you do that, when the process no longer exists? ok this would mean then, that processors are soo/too quick nowadays in comparison to former times ? Or what does it tell us ? Although it really looks strange too me that the machine is completely busy but not showing anything. Even if I do a time make -j 8 buildworld I see only in rare cases display of up to 8 cc1 processes but mostly no display. as and ccp processes I see never. Its really strange and I'm not completely convinced that everything is right. If I remember right it was on exactly the same machine P3 1 GHz where this behaviour changed. I think it was between FreeBSD 4 and 5. This machine here (amd64) 3000+ I only have since a few months. Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm - Powered by FreeBSD 5.4 Need a magic printfilter today ? -> http://www.apsfilter.org/