From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Mon Jul 31 15:49:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41080DB1C21 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08271801F0 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from desk.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836DA91E6; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by desk.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A5D1D48BBE; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 17:49:57 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Michelle Sullivan Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DefCon lecture BSD Kern Vulns References: <26de0aed-8151-6105-188f-ad0c6c6cf8b8@erdgeist.org> <86y3r4ubvx.fsf@desk.des.no> <84c3e9d0-3d44-b310-a946-96eb0c54e79d@sorbs.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 17:49:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <84c3e9d0-3d44-b310-a946-96eb0c54e79d@sorbs.net> (Michelle Sullivan's message of "Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:48:19 +0200") Message-ID: <861sowy5ay.fsf@desk.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:49:57 -0000 Michelle Sullivan writes: > People should talk between, and maybe people should put security and > co-operation before pride and empires... [...] There are decades of history here of which you are clearly unaware. Your may have the best of intentions, but nothing good will come of raising this topic here and now. Just drop it. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no