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Date:      Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:20:17 +0100
From:      Bruce M Simpson <bms@spc.org>
To:        Nate Lawson <nate@root.org>
Cc:        Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>, Paolo Pisati <p.pisati@oltrelinux.com>, FreeBSD_Hackers <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Hey, is there space for a newbie? =)
Message-ID:  <20020925092017.GL23343@spc.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0209241226590.65697-100000@root.org>
References:  <20020924110929.A18850@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0209241226590.65697-100000@root.org>

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On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 12:32:40PM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote:
> How about updating Alpine (alpine.cs.washington.edu) and fixing a lot of
> its lousy hacks (i.e. the sysinit stuff)?

Nice idea, but a lot of people will/are use/using Bochs or VMware for this.
Mind you, the Alpine approach doesn't require as much other crap (vmnet,
vmmon, et al) to operate. And tun(4) could be used as a faux ethernet driver.

> Zero copy BPF?

This is a seriously nice idea; but won't it require user-space applications
to allocate their buffers on page boundaries (assuming MMU page tricks are
one underlying mechanism to avoid copies) ?

> Port the Linux Rockwell/Conexant winmodem support to freebsd?  (Tons of
> laptops have this chipset).
>   http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/

I had a brief look at this last month. I should warn you that the Linux
driver is simply a wrapper. The actual software modem is a Linux object
with encrypted symbols which is linked in to the wrapper to provide the
loadable softmodem module. I didn't get further than that - but I imagine
that there must be some way to convert the module to something which
could be linked in to a corresponding FreeBSD .ko.

BMS

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