From nobody Thu Feb 1 15:18:50 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-virtualization@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TQjHC2tz0z58qYr for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2024 15:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-il1-x135.google.com (mail-il1-x135.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::135]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TQjHB20qZz4pJc for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2024 15:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-il1-x135.google.com with SMTP id e9e14a558f8ab-3638e3ace68so3935235ab.2 for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2024 07:19:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1706800741; x=1707405541; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ogwzF2flHk4gHXdQaiukRNSk7teGiXQleqCXKgRjosQ=; b=M1UbePkyTjAgQYMzaTz0/7zY64y50S7MzSxsF4ew1IGyBAx1UD6VXMrSeyE9jan/M/ bC4rQ1jY3EAGJMGd1D04vbKDm6n4o3h8vbxj/rzSpsrGOP0b7llkWrlz0sH3q72ry/pD +ld//2iLKWKaC+ZPGS0CVEWsY89GuOHrc3Kq41Lp2FXs7bkAgVrOIOT3j/m8J+iTvoG5 ZgL9yXx0MCQ4fq9oIei2hts8QbYLeaXIcAGp7mWDy40HnJ2ouNJVebzbMXZEhib3egmR mkgXQO13pnY52wHBbikC5XsybcUD3LZv8Q1a8yBYW6Yh5qZA3VzKWkfZ7QsH/i+q3xUa uPBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1706800741; x=1707405541; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=ogwzF2flHk4gHXdQaiukRNSk7teGiXQleqCXKgRjosQ=; b=KXW6Zv8Tn6VtbZ5Shl9orcl0T3dzbEXzEUzpH7lmDilmcXGDXk4H2/ae5/Ed5XYoNl 7q2+SSdxuPQblhUAo9gASh0u4MLjx5ycaQ4UucWPI/9cJXvrqWX7eI2JxtAU84N7jLad Rjm7uf+o5POESFSssqECcXl7oQ3wAvo01bvrnV4yJBEmNrp6/UqfG/QElVEvQ8TSMlI8 p0HiroZHEDDjUcseDd/7PWVXZpReF0URyfqXYLLIDDvv1cylvtiBf1LBgj3BzuY215xf T0wki5J2PCmHGK8Vn/ePdWxEVoyxB1/22NP8IQRGD2I5suf2RZCxeW3kdnkp09w7Rz36 FC+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywr96v6Mu5NgZnT0auS291beojnKOSmKQG9eMNqaEBUcz1NRpFs eIzC6epVdWQFQur/ijKkfSJed+GQnhLFlTunHGZmHyjaW2fDSVT5XKcxXmzUbykKK7flEd2Aois iRHwhWZMNttvXPevodmAzRMHO8/8w1HkXWsBofexjCVipOQf++HE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFfgrKcy4xcpQNcQfSAElg4Xs+RJrwv7x4vdBdTN0LmNHg50TNaNsnDfZTjPdX9gQ33U3vP3eCe5SESyQhDWv4= X-Received: by 2002:a92:c8cc:0:b0:363:8618:87ce with SMTP id c12-20020a92c8cc000000b00363861887cemr5626796ilq.12.1706800741080; Thu, 01 Feb 2024 07:19:01 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-virtualization List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Alejandro Imass Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 16:18:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: If we are so opposed to Docker and Kubernetes, what is the real alternative on BSD? To: Mario Marietto Cc: Odhiambo Washington , FreeBSD virtualization Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dffb5a061053837f" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TQjHB20qZz4pJc X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] --000000000000dffb5a061053837f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:05=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto wrote: > ---> I understand that Linux native containers can already run on BSD wit= h > the Linuxulator layer. > > Docker can't run on the linuxulator. Curious to see if kubernetes and or > runj do it. Me too I know that native code is better,but I know that no o= ne > on FreeBSD wants,so instead of using bhyve,if I can,I prefer the lighter > Linuxulator. > Well, it has run in the past: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker But I don't think anyone really wants Docker and there's the hypervisor for that. The intent of the thread is to deliberate on native freebsd orchestration and autoscaling. I don't think anyone would mind re-writing Dockerfile to Bastillefile or whatever. What's missing is the other part, the k8s equivalent. --000000000000dffb5a061053837f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:05=E2=80=AFP= M Mario Marietto <marietto2008= @gmail.com> wrote:
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Docker can't ru= n on the linuxulator. Curious to see if kubernetes and or runj do it. Me to= o I know that native code is better,but I know that no one on FreeBSD wants= ,so instead of using bhyve,if I can,I prefer the lighter Linuxulator.
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Well, it has run in the past:= =C2=A0https://wiki.freebsd.org/= Docker

But I don't think anyone really wan= ts Docker and there's the hypervisor for that. The intent of the thread= is to deliberate on native freebsd orchestration and autoscaling.=C2=A0
I don't think anyone would mind re-writing Dockerfile to Bastil= lefile or whatever. What's missing is the other part, the k8s equivalen= t.=C2=A0


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