From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 12:52:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B8616A4CE for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from destiny.chrononomicon.com (mail.chrononomicon.com [65.193.73.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FBA43D39 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:52:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (destiny.chrononomicon.com [192.168.1.42]) by destiny.chrononomicon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0EA1FDFF for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:52:30 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) In-Reply-To: <200403182042.i2IKg2c18484@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <200403182042.i2IKg2c18484@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <2C0C0548-791E-11D8-A66F-000A956D2452@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:52:30 -0500 To: FreeBSD-questions Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Subject: Re: Mail readers (was: Re: Portupgrade troubles, interactive ports) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:52:52 -0000 On Mar 18, 2004, at 3:42 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > Yup. I do it manually - just hit that nice big Enter/Return key=20 > between > a couple of word when I get out around that far. Which is why, on my mailer, quoting you gives a full line then one word=20= then a line...it kind of reminds me of a person I knew in college who=20 typed his first multipage essay with the hard linefeeds at the end of=20 each line instead of the end of each paragraph, then made a change near=20= the beginning and foobar'd his formatting for the whole document... :-) > > That's all too complicated. It is really because many people read > their mail on text only readers - such as on a console without > much gui stuff or whatever. So, the stuff either just wraps at > lousy places and runs stuff together or it ignores all the html > or other markup junk that clutters up the message file and splats > it all out on the screen just as it gets it which is hard to read. > In the FAQ (and the conversation I had with the person on the OS X=20 lists), it isn't HTML, and it isn't a GUI thing. Format=3Dflowed works=20= in several console programs, from what =10the FAQ said. Re: HTML, the FAQ said: No. Nothing. Format=3Dflowed applies solely to plain-text messages. HTML=20= messages already have something functionally equivalent to f=3Df: the=20
attribute, which... um... quotes blocks of text. When f=3Df=20= mailers that also can handle HTML encounter
text, it=92s=20 usually marked up with the same excerpt bars we=92re familiar with from=20= f=3Df. Format=3Dflowed isn=92t actually at work there, but since =
=20 text flows nicely when you resize a window, the effect is the same. > A return in there usuall doesn't mess up the gui Email readers. They > tend to ignore it. But it sure helps text based Email readers. > Actually, it is displaying oddly in my MUA...because of the hard=20 returns mixed with the f=3Df. Incidentally, can others on the list verify where my mail is wrapping? =20= I was working with someone offlist to see if, in Mail.app, my wrapping=20= is affected by the size of the composition window when I send the=20 message. I noticed that quirk in a few other OS X apps when working=20 with printing documents...WYSIWYG taken to an extreme :-=10) -Bart=