From nobody Wed Mar 11 00:32:29 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4fVsCf36z4z6VPqP for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2026 00:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hackers-freebsd-org952@ketas.si.pri.ee) Received: from mail.ketas.si.pri.ee (d004-fea2-0bff-021e-13e8-8437-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee [IPv6:2001:7d0:8437:13e8:21e:bff:fea2:d004]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4fVsCd4h4Jz3wHN for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2026 00:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hackers-freebsd-org952@ketas.si.pri.ee) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ketas.si.pri.ee header.s=ketas-si-pri-ee-20240416002854-4096 header.b=iLPfdyIA; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=ketas.si.pri.ee; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-hackers-freebsd-org952@ketas.si.pri.ee designates 2001:7d0:8437:13e8:21e:bff:fea2:d004 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-hackers-freebsd-org952@ketas.si.pri.ee X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ketas.si.pri.ee; s=ketas-si-pri-ee-20240416002854-4096; t=1773189151; bh=fsAnHpBoIrwLpSPf5YIIgbmmWNmP8SykL+NUEU5ewIM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=iLPfdyIA3qosYi/25UkkRN9XG6wOfjsxXMYFeU1Z7Aj/At+fqu8I0pukXigiOXs/m 1sqzfenU6MtiUD/H3+np+ao1GvyVAWu/uCTUgj0biH+yp2von3sJce5rlY9BkjdO/T qC/bAKW7Otpi3G3vVpkXhE/KSUqJm6TESDypOSlFjHdtbhl7k0fNQwSd3KX7++c4GP KudivSPiiiSVHWlZJ8F4zuIuoKfXg0tfV9HhwqrBEno9y6USL9QalCKjd6Pne9eMQO KZmATB32gMMd5TG4EZFW64K/Jj7HM9OK08EfjKdAb0v+9om0zZk0m7485w3k3EJU2z Ucr4ugjwPmNhNc6+kM4Ryivzl88449h9KoXSRfSCt/b4DAuA54Tk2qrOLl7TqFrKi6 gqOqp1eCIir5Mp4Ee34vUz+eH+LUpmVM9+DPS+K91TCs4+ZtnhabCetVdbInAGfC6V 5Hxq+AjezE1RxhlbkwxM2qronrRCkXHiuKrconcAwZ6eRin1O+aq4PazO5AYSGBfbZ OET1iELmvlkGjSsI9LH6YCxBzmQsSh01IK3+ebz0SwMQmMVL5RB3R4jyI8n+ZhStS8 /7Bx3siYAMIi+ZaxJudY8wX67rqZeM7s+9Pa6GZwRTzxo86pHOX/ekCgMZOlw97mNZ mE3BkdBixtqMLvDe67+LCP0U= Received: from ehlo.thunderbird.net (0115-0000-0000-0000-13c8-8437-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee [IPv6:2001:7d0:8437:13c8::115]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.ketas.si.pri.ee (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38AF45DA679 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2026 02:32:31 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2026 02:32:29 +0200 From: Sulev-Madis Silber To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Practical suggestions for resolving the Age Verification problem User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <08dc619e-955a-438d-86ba-751b1fa63bce@vincentbentley.co.uk> <17977bb140d10505168a9af142dc09c8@bsdforge.com> <202603101228.62ACSKxx074330@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Message-ID: <2722F52C-B775-4606-B2A4-63B743E19088@ketas.si.pri.ee> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.80 / 15.00]; HFILTER_HOSTNAME_5(3.00)[d004-fea2-0bff-021e-13e8-8437-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ketas.si.pri.ee,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ketas.si.pri.ee:s=ketas-si-pri-ee-20240416002854-4096]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:7d0:8437:1300::/56]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3249, ipnet:2001:7d0::/32, country:EE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ketas.si.pri.ee:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4fVsCd4h4Jz3wHN X-Spamd-Bar: / i read this all and please pinch me! since i'm obviously having a nightmare here=2E it must not be real=2E i di= dn't believe it got so bad but yet it is=2E in here eu we have chatcontrol and what else the age verification is also, as mentioned, usable for malicious purposes= =2E by targeting kids themselves specifically=2E perfect as they are vulner= able i bet authors were like oh i didn't think of that! anyway it's all totally insane and nevermind it's always possible to fake it