From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Feb 14 23:42:02 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509BEF06CC7 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=utra=fi=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from mail.sermon-archive.info (sermon-archive.info [71.177.216.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E389373A32 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=utra=fi=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.251] (mini [10.0.1.251]) by mail.sermon-archive.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3zhbXm5zvgz2fjVV; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:42:00 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Subject: Re: any problem going from 9.x (don't laugh) to 11 directly? From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <86lgfvi20e.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:42:00 -0800 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <27FEBFA7-A61C-4157-928C-75356F72AE08@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <86lgfvjk6c.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <7F0B2921-9F04-4E15-BD0F-17A0EA8E953B@mail.sermon-archive.info> <86lgfvi20e.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> To: "Randal L. Schwartz" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:42:02 -0000 > On 14 February 2018, at 15:29, Randal L. Schwartz = wrote: >=20 >>>>>> "Doug" =3D=3D Doug Hardie writes: >=20 > Doug> FreeBSD 9.1 cannot use freebsd-update to go directly to > Doug> 11.x. >=20 > I'm on 9.3, and intended to use freebsd-update. I'll look around for that patch. I seem to recall one of my 9.3 systems = needed it. You know if you need it if freebsd-update says cowardly = refusing to proceed. =20 >=20 > Doug> During the upgrade process when you first reboot, you really = need > Doug> to boot in single user mode. > Doug> I have always done a regular boot as > Doug> the machines were not local and had no access to the console. >=20 > I don't think you mean serial console... Arpnetworks gives me a VNC > console... I presume I can boot single user from the initial menu. I have not used a VNC console, but have used a serial console which was = not all that reliable. I suspect the issue was with the equipment = connected to the serial port, not FreeBSD. >=20 > Doug> There are enough library changes that most services just will = not > Doug> start properly and tend to hang. You are left with a system = that > Doug> is non-responsive. The one approach I used successfully one = time > Doug> was to comment virtually everything other than sshd out in > Doug> rc.conf. You have to make sure you have really killed sendmail > Doug> though. Setting it to NO is not enough. Otherwise it will > Doug> eventually give up and give you back service, but it takes a = long > Doug> time. >=20 > Great advice! Thanks. I tried to upgrade one system from 9.3 to 10.something and it would not = boot. It died during the hardware discovery. I gave up and went to = 11.0 which worked just fine on that hardware. -- Doug