From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Jan 7 01:13:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A037A14813FA for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 01:13:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamisouckova@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk1-f176.google.com (mail-vk1-f176.google.com [209.85.221.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B47466AC56; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 01:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamisouckova@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk1-f176.google.com with SMTP id d201so9069986vka.0; Sun, 06 Jan 2019 17:13:36 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=GkCh0rNMMpb4u+gN5zSXtRqw7VVArfe11g41/xX9GNE=; b=GfX5ke+zly1AEtTr+ds7D+PQJwBIL/qBTPNy9W2nNn59hMjTU+fPA7NH7vnO+Frb9B WApqbw5YUSWX9/xkwr4PDtBzev7DtrQo7jWZHLV1Rf59EKjPMMxhP9C8M04wXPRAM773 tvUnAtaGWQEStJvlNMzp95bPdpKi8msADlXJKPK0Ib5lKAjFsMrGn9liElyez85AhHJi vcBXJsUdPUerWy/o/lJ08egGdu6R7NAqjnHdlBVF7zBF0d2TV36dSPMqB06JATL5wOCN t+eicHZDIkShn7zBRLxbx2OXB6+uDb5OJKsC5zqFvu12qO7N06WEBFJmJVEEk7Njj5SK xhuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukd8ktqOpJOxt3yr0AtY8o6faRRF9Vrgq7hEp57hDwuPaUpPT9PP S47JvrulnqqMcmjh6HvGhZzaN9YCHNEVf0cy8esDt/o5 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7UeflrUA/Fl4pkboYoPKwxXlM6NOK0fapTpDncONCaL+a5LoUt5AK/tOAKCmsGmfqgvDm3VfCRBOfnfderk1U= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:e807:: with SMTP id f7mr21359284vkh.16.1546816735534; Sun, 06 Jan 2019 15:18:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7d7bc47d-04cf-2f9b-00a3-e3d9d92b3623@aceshardware.com> <72922F2C-9D27-47AA-BB1C-2DA8589CF008@rpi.edu> <92bd5362-d898-aa12-8f3d-9fbe23f38e0c@aceshardware.com> <26325c0b-4960-7739-72aa-c31c4e0638d3@aceshardware.com> <20ad6ace-db43-7675-a6d3-813a71ac3a9a@aceshardware.com> In-Reply-To: <20ad6ace-db43-7675-a6d3-813a71ac3a9a@aceshardware.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?S2FtaWxhIFNvdcSNa292w6E=?= Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 00:18:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components To: Brian Neal Cc: Alan Somers , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B47466AC56 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kamisouckova@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kamisouckova@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.56 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ksp.sk]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.46)[-0.457,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[176.221.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-1.10)[ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.76), asn: 15169(-1.67), country: US(-0.08)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[kamila@ksp.sk,kamisouckova@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[kamila@ksp.sk,kamisouckova@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 01:13:38 -0000 I was hoping to avoid contributing to this flame war, but alas... I just want to remind the FreeBSD devs (you probably know, but I'm saying it anyway): a bunch of users who aren't contributing to this flame war do in fact appreciate how you think about options and consider what's best for FreeBSD. You have taken the effort to consider an idea that is currently not even an option, because it might (or might not) be interesting in the future, and you have done it publicly despite knowing that not everyone would be happy with it. It is useful for the community to know that such considerations exist, because this way we can have the motivation to experiment with rust (if we want to) and find out more about whether it's a good tradeoff. Whether things end up one way or another, I am sure that it will be a good thing for FreeBSD to have thought about this. I am happy to be using a system whose devs I can trust. Kamila