From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed May 12 22:56:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from obie.softweyr.com (unknown [204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF9314C57 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:56:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (homer.softweyr.com [204.68.178.39]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29162; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:56:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <373A697B.B7A5D7DC@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:56:11 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: desktop, was linus on BSD References: <199905121723.KAA03623@usr08.primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > A workstation with IDE hardware? > > > > > > Oh, you mean a PC... > > > > Or a Darwin. No, not the Apple stuff, the Sun stuff. > > > > Are you (un)confused now? > > Oh, you don't mean a *work*station, you mean a *play*station... > if you were doing work, you'd need to do I/O. > > Or do you have some other reason for doing all of your I/O > serially, such that if you run more than one process (e.g. > not just MS Word), all of your other processes suffer? > > IDE supports tagged command queueing, but IDE controllers and > drives don't. > > IDE isn't just a one user toy -- it's a one user, one process, one > I/O at a time toy. Let's review: Sun E250, 1x 300 Mhz UltraSPARC, a boatload of big, fast UWSCSI-3 drives. cd ~/builder/engr/src; make all: 44 minutes Sun Ultra5, 1x 333 Mhz UltraSPARC, one 4.3 GB Ultra-IDE drive. cd ~/builder/engr/src; make all: 49 minutes Doing that "make all," and the associated little makes, is why my workstation exists. What's even better is that we can tie them all into a "cluster" using pmake; this drops the "make all" time to 18 minutes at night when the office is quiet. I can buy a 13GB UltraIDE drive for the Ultra5, or my FreeBSD box, for $180, at a place close enough I can go there during lunch. Where's the win? -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message