From owner-freebsd-current Tue Feb 4 14:28:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18275 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18267 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:28:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA28524; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:28:25 -0800 (PST) To: Karl Denninger cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question: 2.1.7? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Feb 1997 16:06:35 CST." <199702042206.QAA01949@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 14:28:25 -0800 Message-ID: <28520.855095305@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Anyone who would like a copy of Jordan's email to me in which he says > "you're smoking crack" is welcome to ask. Oh good, let's take this to -current where it belongs. NOT. This is the last of this thread we'll see here. And, just for the record, what I said to Karl was: Do what you will, Karl, but frankly I think you're smoking crack on this one if you don't somehow see it as possible that someone could install a release, make some changes to secure it and THEN turn on the ethernet connection to the outside world. You've taken on a Karl clearly doesn't understand this as a euphemism for "you don't know WTF you're saying", which is as I meant it. Karl also says: > 1) 2.1.6 needs to be PULLED, along with STABLE in any binary > distribution kits. Yes, this means destroying CDs and deleting > it from FTP servers. Immediately, as in today. > ... And further suggests that he will now happily post about our security flaws to every newsgroup in creation in order to force such an action. Oh yes, Karl is indeed being a reasonable man about all of this. A well-known paragon of diplomacy, our Mr. Denninger is, and it is for this reason that I suggested we'd all be a lot happier to see his retreating back. It has nothing to do with intolerance of a dissenting opinion, it has to do with intolerance of Karl himself. > Is it time yet for someone else to set up yet ANOTHER source tree and > development branch for FreeBSD? You do whatever you feel you have to do, Karl. Just go away. You're an annoying pest. Jordan