From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 16 10:57:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA22011 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 10:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hod (hod.tera.com [206.215.142.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22006 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 10:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [206.215.142.62]) by hod (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25063; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 10:56:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00289; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 10:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199609161756.KAA00289@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: Easy editors In-Reply-To: from The ShadowS Know at "Sep 14, 96 10:00:08 pm" To: shadows@whitefang.com Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 10:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL23 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to The ShadowS Know: > On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, Henrik Johansson wrote: > > > I am used to DOS, and I would like to know if there are any EASY > > editors available for Freebsd? The DOS Edit program is so much easier > > to use than vi and emacs, which makes me wonder if the goal of Unix > > programmers has been to make things as insane and user-unfriendly as > > possible? What other reasons could there be? > > A very simple one. See with emacs and vi you can extend your editor to do > things that DOS edit would only dream off. Another thing I'd say alot of > the users of Unix are programmers themselves and use it for development. > Not all but alot. So Emacs and vi to them is more understandable from a > programmers point of view. There are easy editors as you call them. Like > XEdit pico and I'm sure a bunch of others. > > Word to the wise: If it takes longer to learn it, its usualy much more > rewarding. DOS edit might of been easy, but I'd rather spend a few years > discovering the beauty of emacs over time. > Good reply to valid points raised. My wife, among others, flames my system when she has to use vi to create a doc or send mail, etc. I'm wondering if there is any combo of X editor and mailer that I can set up for her to ``emulate'' the Mac that she is used to and loves/loved, or the PeeCee that she is using now. Bear in mind that this is a woman who has no interest in learning a new editor.... There is mh or xmh--yes?--that would be kind of push buttom. The main thing is an editor. gary PS: Agree that time invested in learning is seldom wasted... but, alas, the hacker|techno-nerd ethic isn't that common.