From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 20 16:53:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0442F16A4CE; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:53:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5865243D2F; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:53:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9KGqeCk031836; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:52:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:52:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20041020.105259.18149825.imp@bsdimp.com> To: wb@freebie.xs4all.nl From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20041020154026.GA40554@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <6ff30abd04102008163115a32d@mail.gmail.com> <20041020.093211.78703993.imp@bsdimp.com> <20041020154026.GA40554@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: arch@freebsd.org cc: mitigator@gmail.com cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: What do people think about not installing a stripped /kernel ?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:53:46 -0000 In message: <20041020154026.GA40554@freebie.xs4all.nl> Wilko Bulte writes: : On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 09:32:11AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote.. : > In message: <6ff30abd04102008163115a32d@mail.gmail.com> : > jamie rishaw at google mail writes: : > : What are the performance implications of a debug kernel? : > : : > : Disk space really shouldnt even be an issue.. if it is, and its down : > : to the difference of 20 megs, well, duno. 512 meg CF's going for : > : sub-$50 .. the only reason i could see even a debate would be any : > : significant performance hits.. : > : > So long as it can be turned off, I don't care too much. : > : > However, I'm going going to take exception that it isn't a disk space : : Sure.. and we have plenty of Viagra spam to prove it ;-) : : > starting to fill up. In addition, we sometimes deploy new kernels to : > the field and 16MB takes a lot longer to upload than 3MB (think really : > bad connectivity to many of the remote locations our systems may be : > deployed in). : : But I assume you would run a customised kernel on these machines anyway? Yes. Please see the first sentence of my reply: : > So long as it can be turned off, I don't care too much. Size does matter, so I have to be able to turn this feature off. Warner