From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jan 12 03:54:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id DAA22758 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU (paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.34.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id DAA22753 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.3/8.8.2) with ESMTP id DAA12628; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:54:04 -0800 (PST) From: Josh MacDonald Message-Id: <199701121154.DAA12628@paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new texinfo is busted! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Jan 1997 11:59:44 +0100." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <12621.853070018.1@paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:53:42 -0800 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As Josh MacDonald wrote: > > > Third, you should all be reading info files with emacs, not info. Info > > is a stupid program and doesn't deserve to exist. Emacs, however, is not, > > and the info browser is quite good. > > Unless emacs shrinks to a few hundred kilobyte in size, it _does_ > deserve to exist. Info(1) can be shipped with the base system, emacs > cannot. > > Get me right, my emacs runs all day and night, its uptime is usually > identical to the system uptime. Nevertheless, there are people who > don't prefer it as their editor of choice, and the attitude ``use it > to read the info files or die'' would just cause me to say: to the > hell with all the info files. Make them HTML or man pages. (We > already sorta rely on HTML, see the FAQ and the handbook.) Yeah I wasn't too serious, but since most are reference manuals they're not really required for urgent-what-if-I-dont-have-emacs-installed-yet situations. There is the HTML route, too. texi2html produces pretty good HTML. -josh