From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 18 10:17:26 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 18 10:17:22 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F62A37B404 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:17:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id TAA22614; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:17:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1484qR-0005iD-00 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:17:07 +0100 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:17:07 +0100 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mozilla and 4.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <20001218191707.H18645@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: Szilveszter Adam , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <976986477.3a3ba16db730c@webmail.harmonic.co.il> <20001217051120.A20812@citusc.usc.edu> <20001217150650.B19311@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20001217131405.B47873@dragon.nuxi.com> <20001218084351.A6395@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rjesup@wgate.com on Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 12:43:26PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 12:43:26PM -0500, Randell Jesup wrote: > Szilveszter Adam writes: > >Well, I am not a developer, so I can just speculate... earlier they had a > >FreeBSD 4.0 test box, but most probably they stumbled upon some C++ problem > >with our compiler and simply gave up. Later they brought in an old 2.2.8 > >box, but that also was relegated to Mozilla-Test. I guess they tried that > >because Netscape also uses a.out for their commercial branch on FreeBSD. > >But later that one also disappeared. > > I've continued to build FreeBSD 4.1 mozilla's with no problems. > I track mozilla's trunk on a daily basis and have not had any problems. > > I don't know what in 4.2 broke them, but I'd expect it's GCC/G++ > related from the comments here. > > They don't normally pay a lot of attention to FreeBSD. After > listening to someone rant at them at meetzilla about how their bug tracking > mechanisms weren't useful and how supposedly FreeBSD people wouldn't want > to report bugs using bugzilla (and would instead want to use freebsd's much > better mechanisms), I'm not surprised. That person (from a local BSD users > group I think) cost the freebsd community considerable respect among the > mozilla developers and mozilla 3rd-party developers. (IMHO) > > When specific problems with FreeBSD have been reported people there > have looked into them; one person even set up a machine and made it > available to everyone else there for testing. That was a while ago, > however, and I've seen few freebsd-specific bugs outside of PSM and java > issues. Well, thanks for the info... this is rather sad though... it allegedly builds fine on NetBSD 1.5, although that never was a supported a platform... but here we can see that the category "negative advocacy" also exists. Also, I don't think there that many people actually *using* Mozilla on FreeBSD... and sometimes Linux issues are also dealt with rather late, like Java support... I know it is easier to program for Windows but Netscape is supposed to be the UNIX-browser... well, never mind. -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message