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Date:      Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:07:53 +1000
From:      "Peter Ross" <Peter.Ross@bogen.in-berlin.de>
To:        "Jeremy Chadwick" <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Scott Sipe <cscotts@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: scp: Write Failed: Cannot allocate memory
Message-ID:  <20110706130753.182053f3ellasn0p@webmail.in-berlin.de>
In-Reply-To: <20110706023234.GA72048@icarus.home.lan>
References:  <20110706122339.61453nlqra1vqsrv@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20110706023234.GA72048@icarus.home.lan>

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Quoting "Jeremy Chadwick" <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>:

> On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 12:23:39PM +1000, Peter Ross wrote:
>> Quoting "Jeremy Chadwick" <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>:
>>
>> >On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 01:03:20PM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote:
>> >>I'm running virtualbox 3.2.12_1 if that has anything to do with it.
>> >>
>> >>sysctl vfs.zfs.arc_max: 6200000000
>> >>
>> >>While I'm trying to scp, kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.size is
>> >>hovering right around that value, sometimes above, sometimes
>> >>below (that's as it should be, right?). I don't think that it
>> >>dies when crossing over arc_max. I can run the same scp 10 times
>> >>and it might fail 1-3 times, with no correlation to the
>> >>arcstats.size being above/below arc_max that I can see.
>> >>
>> >>Scott
>> >>
>> >>On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:00 AM, Peter Ross wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>>just as an addition: an upgrade to last Friday's
>> >>>FreeBSD-Stable and to VirtualBox 4.0.8 does not fix the
>> >>>problem.
>> >>>
>> >>>I will experiment a bit more tomorrow after hours and grab some =20
>> statistics.
>> >>>
>> >>>Regards
>> >>>Peter
>> >>>
>> >>>Quoting "Peter Ross" <Peter.Ross@bogen.in-berlin.de>:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I noticed a similar problem last week. It is also very
>> >>>>similar to one reported last year:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-September/0587=
08.html
>> >>>>
>> >>>>My server is a Dell T410 server with the same bge card (the
>> >>>>same pciconf -lvc output as described by Mahlon:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-September/0587=
11.html
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Yours, Scott, is a em(4)..
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Another similarity: In all cases we are using VirtualBox. I
>> >>>>just want to mention it, in case it matters. I am still
>> >>>>running VirtualBox 3.2.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Most of the time kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.size was reaching
>> >>>>vfs.zfs.arc_max then, but I could catch one or two cases
>> >>>>then the value was still below.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I added vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=3D1 to sysctl.conf but it does not h=
elp.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>BTW: It looks as ARC only gives back the memory when I
>> >>>>destroy the ZFS (a cloned snapshot containing virtual
>> >>>>machines). Even if nothing happens for hours the buffer
>> >>>>isn't released..
>> >>>>
>> >>>>My machine was still running 8.2-PRERELEASE so I am upgrading.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I am happy to give information gathered on old/new kernel if it helps=
.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Regards
>> >>>>Peter
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Quoting "Scott Sipe" <cscotts@gmail.com>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>On Jul 2, 2011, at 12:54 AM, jhell wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 03:22:32PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
>> >>>>>>>On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 03:13:17PM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>I'm running 8.2-RELEASE and am having new problems
>> >>>>>>>>with scp. When scping
>> >>>>>>>>files to a ZFS directory on the FreeBSD server --
>> >>>>>>>>most notably large files
>> >>>>>>>>-- the transfer frequently dies after just a few
>> >>>>>>>>seconds. In my last test, I
>> >>>>>>>>tried to scp an 800mb file to the FreeBSD system and
>> >>>>>>>>the transfer died after
>> >>>>>>>>200mb. It completely copied the next 4 times I
>> >>>>>>>>tried, and then died again on
>> >>>>>>>>the next attempt.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>On the client side:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>"Connection to home closed by remote host.
>> >>>>>>>>lost connection"
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>In /var/log/auth.log:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Jul  1 14:54:42 freebsd sshd[18955]: fatal: Write
>> >>>>>>>>failed: Cannot allocate
>> >>>>>>>>memory
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>I've never seen this before and have used scp before
>> >>>>>>>>to transfer large files
>> >>>>>>>>without problems. This computer has been used in
>> >>>>>>>>production for months and
>> >>>>>>>>has a current uptime of 36 days. I have not been
>> >>>>>>>>able to notice any problems
>> >>>>>>>>copying files to the server via samba or netatalk, or any =20
>> problems in
>> >>>>>>>>apache.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Uname:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>FreeBSD xeon 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Sat
>> >>>>>>>>Feb 19 01:02:54 EST
>> >>>>>>>>2011     root@xeon:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>I've attached my dmesg and output of vmstat -z.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>I have not restarted the sshd daemon or rebooted the computer.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Am glad to provide any other information or test anything else.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>{snip vmstat -z and dmesg}
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>You didn't provide details about your networking setup (rc.conf,
>> >>>>>>>ifconfig -a, etc.).  netstat -m would be useful too.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Next, please see this thread circa September 2010, titled "Network
>> >>>>>>>memory allocation failures":
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-September/t=
hread.html#58708
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>The user in that thread is using rsync, which relies on scp =20
>> by default.
>> >>>>>>>I believe this problem is similar, if not identical, to yours.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Please also provide your output of ( /usr/bin/limits -a ) for =20
>> the server
>> >>>>>>end and the client.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I am not quite sure I agree with the need for ifconfig -a but some
>> >>>>>>information about the networking driver your using for the interfac=
e
>> >>>>>>would be helpful, uptime of the boxes. And configuration of the poo=
l.
>> >>>>>>e.g. ( zpool status -a ;zfs get all <poolname> ) You should probabl=
y
>> >>>>>>prop this information up somewhere so you can reference by =20
>> URL whenever
>> >>>>>>needed.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>rsync(1) does not rely on scp(1) whatsoever but rsync(1) can =20
>> be made to
>> >>>>>>use ssh(1) instead of rsh(1) and I believe that is what Jeremy is
>> >>>>>>stating here but correct me if I am wrong. It does use ssh(1) by
>> >>>>>>default.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Its a possiblity as well that if using tmpfs(5) or mdmfs(8) for /tm=
p
>> >>>>>>type filesystems that rsync(1) may be just filling up your =20
>> temp ram area
>> >>>>>>and causing the connection abort which would be
>> >>>>>>expected. ( df -h ) would
>> >>>>>>help here.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Hello,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I'm not using tmpfs/mdmfs at all. The clients yesterday
>> >>>>>were 3 different OSX computers (over gigabit). The FreeBSD
>> >>>>>server has 12gb of ram and no bce adapter. For what it's
>> >>>>>worth, the server is backed up remotely every night with
>> >>>>>rsync (remote FreeBSD uses rsync to pull) to an offsite
>> >>>>>(slow cable connection) FreeBSD computer, and I have not
>> >>>>>seen any errors in the nightly rsync.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Sorry for the omission of networking info, here's the
>> >>>>>output of the requested commands and some that popped up
>> >>>>>in the other thread:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>http://www.cap-press.com/misc/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>In rc.conf:  ifconfig_em1=3D"inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.0.0"
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Scott
>> >
>> >Just to make it crystal clear to everyone:
>> >
>> >There is no correlation between this problem and use of ZFS.  People are
>> >attempting to correlate "cannot allocate memory" messages with "anything
>> >on the system that uses memory".  The VM is much more complex than that.
>> >
>> >Given the nature of this problem, it's much more likely the issue is
>> >"somewhere" within a networking layer within FreeBSD, whether it be
>> >driver-level or some sort of intermediary layer.
>> >
>> >Two people who have this issue in this thread are both using VirtualBox.
>> >Can one, or both, of you remove VirtualBox from the configuration
>> >entirely (kernel, etc. -- not sure what is required) and then see if the
>> >issue goes away?
>>
>> On the machine in question I only can do it after hours so I will do
>> it tonight.
>>
>> I was _successfully_ sending the file over the loopback interface using
>>
>> cat /zpool/temp/zimbra_oldroot.vdi | ssh localhost "cat > /dev/null"
>>
>> I did it, btw, with the IPv6 localhost address first (accidently),
>> and then using IPv4. Both worked.
>>
>> It always fails if I am sending it through the bce(4) interface,
>> even if my target is the VirtualBox bridged to the bce card (so it
>> does not "leave" the computer physically).
>>
>> Below the uname -a, ifconfig -a, netstat -rn, pciconf -lv and =20
>> kldstat output.
>>
>> I have another box where I do not see that problem. It copies files
>> happily over the net using ssh.
>>
>> It is an an older HP ML 150 with 3GB RAM only but with a bge(4)
>> driver instead. It runs the same last week's RELENG_8. I installed
>> VirtualBox and enabled vboxnet (so it loads the kernel modules). But
>> I do not run VirtualBox on it (because it hasn't enough RAM).
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter
>>
>> DellT410one# uname -a
>> FreeBSD DellT410one.vv.fda 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #1: Thu Jun
>> 30 17:07:18 EST 2011
>> root@DellT410one.vv.fda:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>> DellT410one# ifconfig -a
>> bce0: flags=3D8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST>
>> metric 0 mtu 1500
>> =09options=3Dc01bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_H=
WCSUM,TSO4,VLAN_HWTSO,LINKSTATE>
>> =09ether 84:2b:2b:68:64:e4
>> =09inet 192.168.50.220 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.50.255
>> =09inet 192.168.50.221 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.50.255
>> =09inet 192.168.50.223 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.50.255
>> =09inet 192.168.50.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.50.255
>> =09inet 192.168.50.225 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.50.255
>> =09inet 192.168.50.226 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.50.255
>> =09inet 192.168.50.227 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.50.255
>> =09inet 192.168.50.219 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.50.255
>> =09media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
>> =09status: active
>> bce1: flags=3D8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
>> =09options=3Dc01bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_H=
WCSUM,TSO4,VLAN_HWTSO,LINKSTATE>
>> =09ether 84:2b:2b:68:64:e5
>> =09media: Ethernet autoselect
>> lo0: flags=3D8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 16384
>> =09options=3D3<RXCSUM,TXCSUM>
>> =09inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb
>> =09inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
>> =09inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
>> =09nd6 options=3D3<PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV>
>> vboxnet0: flags=3D8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
>> =09ether 0a:00:27:00:00:00
>> DellT410one# netstat -rn
>> Routing tables
>>
>> Internet:
>> Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expir=
e
>> default            192.168.50.201     UGS         0    52195   bce0
>> 127.0.0.1          link#11            UH          0        6    lo0
>> 192.168.50.0/24    link#1             U           0  1118212   bce0
>> 192.168.50.219     link#1             UHS         0     9670    lo0
>> 192.168.50.220     link#1             UHS         0     8347    lo0
>> 192.168.50.221     link#1             UHS         0   103024    lo0
>> 192.168.50.223     link#1             UHS         0    43614    lo0
>> 192.168.50.224     link#1             UHS         0     8358    lo0
>> 192.168.50.225     link#1             UHS         0     8438    lo0
>> 192.168.50.226     link#1             UHS         0     8338    lo0
>> 192.168.50.227     link#1             UHS         0     8333    lo0
>> 192.168.165.0/24   192.168.50.200     UGS         0     3311   bce0
>> 192.168.166.0/24   192.168.50.200     UGS         0      699   bce0
>> 192.168.167.0/24   192.168.50.200     UGS         0     3012   bce0
>> 192.168.168.0/24   192.168.50.200     UGS         0      552   bce0
>>
>> Internet6:
>> Destination                       Gateway
>> Flags      Netif Expire
>> ::1                               ::1                           UH
>> lo0
>> fe80::%lo0/64                     link#11                       U
>> lo0
>> fe80::1%lo0                       link#11                       UHS
>> lo0
>> ff01::%lo0/32                     fe80::1%lo0                   U
>> lo0
>> ff02::%lo0/32                     fe80::1%lo0                   U
>> lo0
>> DellT410one# kldstat
>> Id Refs Address            Size     Name
>>  1   19 0xffffffff80100000 dbf5d0   kernel
>>  2    3 0xffffffff80ec0000 4c358    vboxdrv.ko
>>  3    1 0xffffffff81012000 131998   zfs.ko
>>  4    1 0xffffffff81144000 1ff1     opensolaris.ko
>>  5    2 0xffffffff81146000 2940     vboxnetflt.ko
>>  6    2 0xffffffff81149000 8e38     netgraph.ko
>>  7    1 0xffffffff81152000 153c     ng_ether.ko
>>  8    1 0xffffffff81154000 e70      vboxnetadp.ko
>> DellT410one# pciconf -lv
>> ..
>> bce0@pci0:1:0:0:        class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x028d1028
>> chip=3D0x163b14e4 rev=3D0x20 hdr=3D0x00
>>     vendor     =3D 'Broadcom Corporation'
>>     class      =3D network
>>     subclass   =3D ethernet
>> bce1@pci0:1:0:1:        class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x028d1028
>> chip=3D0x163b14e4 rev=3D0x20 hdr=3D0x00
>>     vendor     =3D 'Broadcom Corporation'
>>     class      =3D network
>>     subclass   =3D ethernet
>
> Could you please provide "pciconf -lvcb" output instead, specific to the
> bce chips?  Thanks.

Her it is:

bce0@pci0:1:0:0:        class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x028d1028 chip=3D0x163b14e4=
 =20
rev=3D0x20 hdr=3D0x00
     vendor     =3D 'Broadcom Corporation'
     class      =3D network
     subclass   =3D ethernet
     bar   [10] =3D type Memory, range 64, base 0xda000000, size =20
33554432, enabled
     cap 01[48] =3D powerspec 3  supports D0 D3  current D0
     cap 03[50] =3D VPD
     cap 05[58] =3D MSI supports 16 messages, 64 bit enabled with 1 message
     cap 11[a0] =3D MSI-X supports 9 messages in map 0x10
     cap 10[ac] =3D PCI-Express 2 endpoint max data 256(512) link x4(x4)
ecap 0003[100] =3D Serial 1 842b2bfffe6864e4
ecap 0001[110] =3D AER 1 0 fatal 0 non-fatal 1 corrected
ecap 0004[150] =3D unknown 1
ecap 0002[160] =3D VC 1 max VC0

Regards
Peter




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