From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Wed Jun 13 22:57:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78621020E13 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 22:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22c.google.com (mail-io0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D7BD80C76 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 22:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id l19-v6so5222158ioj.5 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:57:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=ZAg9QIw4NwwqcOk7QTThnQrCXaQaZWqs/xTOjF2sOUI=; b=lhK7QvGc5KFURML9LqyXEBNYbyKygHOjrKj7ph0uAB/PH2HNHN/CAxS4rCqQELYEUq 7kiQYoczavBGZ5GjAJOyMrzmmLmGWRDTpqTGDsxp2dpDzGDhd58fg8Hk8aAcfIFTdx8M jkHSJmoHVfRLcLWlYCckWQSBm2SsLch8789Wztz4VwLpgrQn3xT+TdL4fTU1hur0Jcpe sgp49A2v8aUrR4WO+Zbd5yI7ZPZSuNwZ8FDGve3XG1+zP7aIK3YsKK5C6judxTvOM/hL 3wTZ65nDcRvRAKkSi8uVyeIsq5q7genOMnJZ4s0cetWC9rpMyoYQ/JmiJbE/ziBKu8E/ LETw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZAg9QIw4NwwqcOk7QTThnQrCXaQaZWqs/xTOjF2sOUI=; b=cbCgsvxFDvhTFJwRbKL+xjnkKFKNN7X+Xl2/C7g+VfdrCTJ9d9LpNVUbGTy9whd7r9 YFWU/gJg+UflHvLAF1suN7FBfuaRxD9wCtSlWZoz0V2ZUdq1qOozezKKak2Ba7VWWIxw ribJ3FN5jZ2it5LrualxEVx2cBaJIJapXthZSnSmFVlnKA8hL5t/LNjrm5PEFAjwpMCr 5FsVG4oTdEMk0iHaew+QEPddBvI1JlaGuHSCY0J36vRP1UkHEymPkPNhb/AKWeeiy8nU GW8p6BuFp5xzFtqmj/RikKc7Zm8iQSm0vHNf3syari3L25BXkZanCSz5euOXZhnO2WMW 2N/w== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E090JyvdTfqWiaSiDwI/x+fk2nAHFwcJR9ouAQSUXS0HV1t5jvy jUQEYMEfmRIpaur0TrzxuqmTAimb8EM1XCQj+/5b2A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKIkWRNWg+5K/DYIhiDL2FwS94AUaniTImnF3zC7u/lqZ8C4D7eJ56pWcTH0wiuxjHX1Dda/nUsKPOq5VmJpCU8= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:d40c:: with SMTP id l12-v6mr124789iog.37.1528930622665; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:57:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 2002:a4f:d028:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:57:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: <540973.43848.qm@web101701.mail.ssk.yahoo.co.jp> References: <540973.43848.qm@web101701.mail.ssk.yahoo.co.jp> From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:57:02 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5HUYRbmaDjcSxXO0TItfn25B4fs Message-ID: Subject: Re: Armeb removal before 12 To: Mori Hiroki Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 22:57:04 -0000 On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Mori Hiroki wrote: > Hi. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Warner Losh > > To: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" ; " > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" > > Cc: > > Date: 2018/6/14, Thu 01:55 > > Subject: Armeb removal before 12 > > > > I'd like to remove armeb before 12.0. > > > > It's poorly supported today. > > > > Nobody has tested the concurrency kit changes on it. And ck is now > > mandatory. We don't even know if it works or not. > > > > Last time we asked, it took quite a while to find users. > > > > It maxes out at 256MB of RAM. This is barely large enough for FreeBSD to > > run in. > > sys/arm/ralink target is only 16M of RAM. I use bridge on this target > work fine. > Even with current? It seems to have grown a lot. Even FreeBSD 11 on my atmel boards, the 32MB ones can't really do much of anything (though a custom /etc/rc.d might be usable). The 64MB ones I have troubles logging into without disabling a ton of stuff. And FreeBSD-current is even larger. Are you using a custom rc.d in this setup? > I have FWIXP422BB target(Planex BRC-14VG) with 32M of RAM. I never build > FreeBSD for this target. > > I want build for FWIXP422BB but clang cross build is very slow. It take > 7 hour on my machine. I'm sorry to hear that. Even on my fast machines, it takes long time. Warner > > > > > The hardware was last made almost a decade ago. > > > > It uses non-standard non-mainstream boot loaders (boot technology has > moved > > on from redboot). > > > > The cost of doing API sweeps, make universe runs, etc exceeds the benefit > > to the project. > > > > So, given all these factors, it sounds like a good candidate for > retirement. > > > > Therefore, I'd like to remove it on July 15th. > > > > Comments? (please keep them on topic to this specific thing: there's > other > > things that may also be past their freshness date, we'll discuss those > in a > > separate thread). > > > > Warner > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >