From nobody Tue Dec 12 20:05:14 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SqV3C1R6jz538MP for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 20:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x52b.google.com (mail-ed1-x52b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SqV3B3bPMz4Vdr for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 20:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ed1-x52b.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-54cb4fa667bso8671368a12.3 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:05:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1702411524; x=1703016324; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=lgqTATEWO6Ulu2nhp+90kDySE4XmcX5AJzeuso4x2XU=; b=b7SV9pqCkooN2rzzXZQD6D22oUlATERCxKQqBWsrkNAutTEhtvhRUyzKt7P/aMrmUD fX/Y2gnDhFPr6noyK4ZOLQn/Ogzo7mBZUgX6d0WLnwVK/QUtJJL1c39d8bc075/+R/kB U25AVBgmaL6A8NJXT3rwdIdRDHWUm/ypWBYduUvg5aOgMDtEPrZovTy5RvKjcdwr0fh2 rqxtKWIKfJlrceq37YxgMwvAvFDLK41j9aip6bHx4hJt8Ke1k44qU4T2EFMQnYpzO00Q plQYGpfmH4zW1K9zufXUBDfBhmOTurh4fmDZ9z89/8Gya1QlKPAaAWWRyRRkAOv28XB4 f/VQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1702411524; x=1703016324; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=lgqTATEWO6Ulu2nhp+90kDySE4XmcX5AJzeuso4x2XU=; b=YY05iMjEg67bcOqvZceMoM+3ldT4NdqM9mol/nuzmo2qTJDIkBXpY5fwpFdAp/tQkP X6kj3iZ4idevXfwheweyA7/54ncvb8rkkA0s4Tq5VunIE/UtTWJctklhN+m9gp/tBsid dN/IWYrIg+fd5nFnJp+Z0FbAhiR/PcPzmnV80YMNSlHdEA0LowCucOnH3h+/LcLx1Q4D 0OWmFiZEyzRB407LMCuAHPb+CGHKdBlzjFaGWKwT7jwf49hgPTve88hpvuQDblBv5Oka rc1Ahby8DGPqMYHj4inRaJPWZsxZjNkQdOZyVmucg6ylRMej0ltpkeQ1sWZdSQI66P9o Ss3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yxhgy9bdIv5Z6LNJAgsJCw2eEbJm7/ObfojP4ijjuOsZnStnHnm jAN6TDf6l/+XUcXmsVFrKyQMkNOLEC9yvSc/3A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE5UzjjKmXvaabY4S+MQzYjvYkU6Tcpa1XTD5+XfuZmqIVDa0LNaaQU2fF9/FXIMKfvp1STKhfB78sminNEpkY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:c214:b0:a19:a19b:78bd with SMTP id d20-20020a170906c21400b00a19a19b78bdmr3583967ejz.128.1702411524096; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:05:24 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20231212195444.5b2f1b61.freebsd@edvax.de> <20231212195639.AF1A17E28322@ary.local> In-Reply-To: <20231212195639.AF1A17E28322@ary.local> From: Paul Procacci Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 15:05:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DMA, not Sendmail on 14-RELEASE To: John Levine Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@edvax.de Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000027c57b060c559295" X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SqV3B3bPMz4Vdr --00000000000027c57b060c559295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 2:57=E2=80=AFPM John Levine wrote: > It appears that Polytropon said: > >On 12 Dec 2023 11:09:37 -0500, John Levine wrote: > >> If you do want to run a mail server, you probably want to use postfix > >> or exim so you don't have to deal with sendmail's antique and rococo > >> configuration system. Having sendmail preinstalled just gets in the > >> way. > > > >On the other hand, if you just want to use the system's > >mailer to run a "TLS relay", it is not needed to install > >and configure a full 3rd party mail server - initially > >sendmail does serve here quite well. On the other hand, > >can dma do this? > > Yes, of course. DMA relays to a smarthost and can use TLS to the > smarthost's port 587, 465, or I suppose 25. > > I'm not really asking, instead I would > >install sendmail from ports if I needed that kind of > >software. > > But why? DMA Is already there and does what you want. > Maybe because he wants to? Just saying, choice in software is up to the user. @OP Go install sendmail from ports and be on your merry way. ~Paul --=20 __________________ :(){ :|:& };: --00000000000027c57b060c559295 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 2:57=E2=80=AF= PM John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>= wrote:
It appea= rs that Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> said:
>On 12 Dec 2023 11:09:37 -0500, John Levine wrote:
>> If you do want to run a mail server, you probably want to use post= fix
>> or exim so you don't have to deal with sendmail's antique = and rococo
>> configuration system. Having sendmail preinstalled just gets in th= e
>> way.
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>On the other hand, if you just want to use the system's
>mailer to run a "TLS relay", it is not needed to install
>and configure a full 3rd party mail server - initially
>sendmail does serve here quite well. On the other hand,
>can dma do this?

Yes, of course. DMA relays to a smarthost and can use TLS to the
smarthost's port 587, 465, or I suppose 25.

I'm not really asking, instead I would
>install sendmail from ports if I needed that kind of
>software.

But why?=C2=A0 DMA Is already there and does what you want.

Maybe because he wants to? =C2=A0
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Just saying, choice in software is up to the user.
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@OP

Go install sendmail from ports and be on you= r merry way.

~Paul

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