From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 16 09:59:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4977D16A4C1; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-234.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB8543F93; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:59:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F0466DCC; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9994CB6C; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:59:46 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Brian F. Feldman" Message-ID: <20031016165946.GA71469@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <200310161645.h9GGjj0t016455@green.bikeshed.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UugvWAfsgieZRqgk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310161645.h9GGjj0t016455@green.bikeshed.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: developers@FreeBSD.org cc: Andrey Chernov cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: hiding e-mail adresses needed badly X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:59:50 -0000 --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:45:45PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > des@des.no (Dag-Erling =3D?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=3DF8rgrav?=3D) wrote: > > Andrey Chernov writes: > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 16:02:16 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > > And I personally think that by "hiding" the email addresses, you co= ncede > > > > defeat to the spammers. I don't want to let a bunch of low-life > > > > con-men decide how I can and should use the InterNet. > > > It sounds heroic, but the position alone not helps to stop low-life= =20 > > > con-men's invasion. > >=20 > > Stop whining and install SpamAssassin. >=20 > Seconded. I get about two spam messages a week that get through to the= =20 > inbox, and the rest picked off by SpamAssassin with a good spamfolder to= =20 > assist it with Bayesian filtering (I don't delete spam, I move it all to = the=20 > spam folder if I see it in my inbox). Actually, you know what I'd like? = =20 > Absolutely no protection for my address at all. I don't want it hidden o= r=20 > obfuscated and I especially don't want hidden restrictions about who I ca= n=20 > and can't send e-mail to/receive e-mail from dictated solely by the mail= =20 > server (i.e. can't receive mail from or send to my uncle using AOL... not= =20 > using @FreeBSD.org as my address...) Since I also have a working spam-filter (and download bandwidth is not a constraint for me) I'm quite sympathetic to this viewpoint as well. I highly encourage everyone in need of better spam protection to install bogofilter - after training, it catches >98% of my spam with 0 false positives in at least the last 6 months. Kris --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/js6CWry0BWjoQKURAkV0AJ9J3JS4qdPk8v5GAKHFGUzn6HJITACgoVRY VuKaxYHCudcT0x1uI1Rn/eA= =tps7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk--