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Date:      Fri, 27 May 2016 08:02:23 -0700
From:      Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org" <freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org>, Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Add option to sysinstall to install an X desktop, similar to Debian?
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On Friday, May 27, 2016, Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 2016-05-27 05:28, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
> > [Resending due to message size restriction of
> > freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org <javascript:;> <mailto:
> freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org <javascript:;>>]
>
> I started building something like this after our interview with Alfred.
>
> It has gnome3, MATE, KDE4, and xfce4.
>
> I ran into a few problems with things not working out-of-the-box.
>
> If you install mate and gdm, it defaults to logging you in to a very
> very stripped down gnome-shell that is pulled in as a dependency of gdm.
> If you actually install the gnome3 metapackage, it adds like 300 more
> packages, and then the gnome-shell actually has applications in it.
>
> KDE4 works ok.
>
> xfce doesn't have a login manager. xdm doesn't have a startup script,
> you'd have to edit /etc/ttys to make it start at boot. kdm4 can't be
> installed as a separate package. gdm will default to starting gnome
> instead of xfce, even if the gnome package is not installed. I tried
> 'slim', but it always launches: 'exec /bin/sh - ~/.xinitrc %session' and
> files if that file does not exist in the user's home directory.
>
> So I got a little stalled out on it.



Thanks for blazing the trail on this.
This is "boring" usability stuff, but important.
Even by trying this stuff out and hitting roadblocks, you have done a lot.

Can the MATE and xfce4 issues be solved in the port installation scripts?
Or are there more fundamental issues in FreeBSD blocking things?  Are there
solutions to these problems in PC-BSD that we can import?

--
Craig



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