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Date:      Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:03:01 -0500 (EST)
From:      "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net>
To:        fpawlak@execpc.com (Frank Pawlak)
Cc:        jkh@time.cdrom.com, dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet"
Message-ID:  <199804100303.WAA00452@dyson.iquest.net>
In-Reply-To: <199804100239.VAA23365@darkstar.connect.com> from Frank Pawlak at "Apr 9, 98 09:39:30 pm"

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> "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> wrote:
> > I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party)
> > that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too
> > many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues
> > over it.  I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being
> > gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to
> > fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome
> > considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see
> > this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up
> > on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd.
> > 
> > This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much
> > convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really
> > didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their
> > operations as if we didn't.  Oh well.  Perhaps it *IS* time to go on
> > the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice
> > guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments
> > from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the
> > only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's
> > going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community
> > to get our own message out, maybe it's time.
> > 
> > 					Jordan
> 
> Amen!!  From what you say, the time appears to have come.  There are
> enough of them to eat us alive it we sit on our buts and just observe. 
> A kick ass attitude can be a very good thing if things are indeed as you
> say they are.  I am no politician, but that appears to be what is going
> on here.  In that case the more noise and fsck you the better.  Stake
> our ground and strut our stuff.
> Frank
> 
Each of 'em seems like a Borg nano-probe :-).  (Re: StarTrek Voyager :-)).

John

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