From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 21 20:07:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15175 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 20:07:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15170 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 20:07:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA28114; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:06:46 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980822130641.39256@welearn.com.au> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:06:42 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Malartre Cc: FreeBSD-Newbies Subject: Re: URL and Opinions on how to really learn something References: <35DC550F.3E76A4F3@aei.ca> <19980821082608.23489@welearn.com.au> <35DCD40B.65EB9E16@aei.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <35DCD40B.65EB9E16@aei.ca>; from Malartre on Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 09:57:31PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 09:57:31PM -0400, Malartre wrote: > > A little project to "concatenate" free tutorials from the web, with a > little bit of re-design. Can you explain this a bit more? > I know Unix is supposed to be really open, but > who care of having tcsh, bash, ksh, ash, sh, csh zsh blah blah > blaaaaaaaaaaah! I'm going crazy. It's a problem, because everyone wants to use a different shell. Most people seem to use bash, but there's a lot of people using the others, and they need instructions too. At this stage it doesn't matter much for me. Any shell is the same as any other, as long as it has a command history, and even sh can do that. I don't use any of the fancy shell features that make one shell different to another. Maybe that's because nothing I've read has made it real for me. > My dream is a FreeBSD "simulator". > In the Apple Corp way! You start the simulator, then, the black screen > split in two:In the upper screen, there is instruction, in the > downscreen, you try the instruction. A kind of step by step/interactive > way to learn it. > Well, it's a dream, so I think I will return to my C "hello, world" > tutorial. Hehe, I did exactly that a few years ago, when "Internet" round here meant a 300bps (or 2400 if you're lucky) connection to a hostile unix machine with no support. On a BBS, I set up a simulation of a shell account that some people were using. If they typed anything wrong, they'd get hints up the top. If they typed the right thing, they'd get a response similar to the unix machine. It helped people get over their nerves because they believed that nothing they did on my system could do damage and they got the practice they needed. I concluded, though, that the amount of benefit wasn't enough to justify its maintenance. It was written in a dumb text editor with hand-typed control codes that sent instructions to the BBS software. Yech! Unix is never *that* hard! > Finaly, the shell should be sh. I think it's simply "the basic" shell. > ---blah blah MS-DOS (sometimes) rocks--- Bleagh! :-) -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message