From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 17:24:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06061065670 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com (mail-pa0-f54.google.com [209.85.220.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC878FC17 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:24:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id bi1so3672720pad.13 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:24:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=VtVWAYQPUkYFOz1W8388jCDLjj9BDhztEOkzXLHI7Pk=; b=chTAhAnwPdv81uX4iT6rnis9EyFtD7BgFo2JpxKDBhgPgE/Jblo+uAPRvliLWLQbQ+ hOZsq+YeUmDUfVAPdWJj5LOrNb4tRNfdzjTajunfS3YFAknZt0b6MFOUgM6cfKrmJMb1 aRFI9oukd13Rhhjes8wALni38rV4Ooww4oQKo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=VtVWAYQPUkYFOz1W8388jCDLjj9BDhztEOkzXLHI7Pk=; b=Txl6wjAMPKhrQC5IFph+PHGNrLvighJXLn5ALd4AsDV3rfC9f82SbhjyU3KgO8QAJj YkCW/xaFmOjVrJ7Wy/SirblqbzGOaoa3WJqaoOf5aMTCkc5hiOh1wJtDkn71c4C6UavB lIDNn/0E+4s6nQDntWNFULcLvhPFbVvXEp8GAoBYRZqhQewHmCS9TSg91W54CV2L3Gx3 +fiJPg38+9uIvb6QzLSAs+h3Mx/Eoop4ta2tOql/rOWvuawUjMBYhUM92SebaFrNrFCv S9PYuIKB+i46VU6c1U6ad0F9Dqd7pxVy6El52O/6q0A9yLfaHJ2/QDox7z9N7RZnTQ3L 3A+Q== Received: by 10.66.81.202 with SMTP id c10mr36933110pay.31.1349630694234; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:24:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.161.163 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:24:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5071B625.6090906@FreeBSD.org> References: <0655B56F-AD43-402B-872C-568378E650F9@fisglobal.com> <5071B625.6090906@FreeBSD.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:24:23 -0400 Message-ID: To: Andriy Gapon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQluabQEGP9ea2kSpkyH4E45OmupbhDxdehP4BapyxW9GUk1clZ+bIOnQFxakhvAdVrwfIh8 Cc: Devin Teske , Devin Teske , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Boot Loader Menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:24:55 -0000 On 7 October 2012 13:04, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 07/10/2012 02:48 Devin Teske said the following: >> Hello, >> >> I've been working on a new boot loader menu system. >> >> This is what is in HEAD, CURRENT, and RELENG_9 at the moment: >> >> http://twitpic.com/b1pkll/full >> in color: http://twitpic.com/b1pkz1/full >> >> >> I'd like to propose the following replacement to the above: >> >> http://twitpic.com/b1pll5/full >> in color: http://twitpic.com/b1plxi/full >> >> The boot options have been whisked away into a sub-menu (see below): >> >> http://twitpic.com/b1pm51/full >> in color: http://twitpic.com/b1pme8/full >> >> >> What does everybody think? > > > Can't say for everybody :-) > I think that the infrastructure is great. How you chose to use it in your demo > might turn off some people though :-) I mean hiding of the traditional options > into the sub-menu. > > Let's use sub-menus for the really useful stuff. Like detailing safe boot > options (e.g. under Troubleshooting sub-menu; ACPI can got there too) or > offering a GUI way to chose a boot+root filesystem (esp. for ZFS). > > Please don't mind the people who react to screenshots rather than to your work > (and thus, perhaps, can't see the wood behind the trees). > > Whatever you do, verbose boot and single-user mode must stay on the first page. > At least until the next round of evolution. I completely agree with avg@ here. -- Eitan Adler