From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 15 14:06:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02603 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02563; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:06:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00992; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:06:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@gorean.org) Message-ID: <362663CF.5DF853A4@gorean.org> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:06:23 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-1015 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luigi Rizzo CC: conrads@neosoft.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trash Voxware? (was Re: rvplayer requires pcm for stable) References: <199810151304.OAA28238@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Luigi Rizzo wrote: [some snipping] > > I really don't understand the eagerness to drop Voxware at this point in time. > > Is it simply for the lack of maintainer? > > "simply" ? I am amazed, do people understand that the system is > evolving so if a module works _now_ it does not mean it will work > forever without mainteinance ? Some of us do understand that, yes. However, given that it works NOW it is foolish to consider removing it NOW. Also, if it does get broken at some point in the future a maintainer might become sufficiently motivated to step forward. > On the other hand people is not forced to upgrade, so even when a > driver is removed they can happily stay with the last version that > supported their favourite hardware. This argument is completely non sequitur. Removing the driver at some point X in the future means that you've denied access to it for everyone who installs freebsd at some point beyond X. Sure, a new user could theoretically go back and get the parts and install it himself, but this is horrible customer relations. If freebsd really wants to grow then it's going to have to start thinking along these lines. My point stated simply is that if it's not broken, don't remove it until there is a suitable, full featured replacement. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** Go PADRES! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message