From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 18:41:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3959CB for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 18:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 270C9231D for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 18:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1465A2154C for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:41:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to :references; s=smtpout; bh=K3CIbfmXqj5OZAvKFe4W1JKtUnk=; b=aHtbd Qw35UEm8F4lR8s/62kChnVA4TvS5S5IqtHAi4A1TSCg71PzdvIZBGQsodHsoI82m 2J4Zod7CpgtJEtjb7aIU72SUemtbh5S0mJryfG6gn9y+DaWKPa/7KcPcwfZrCYRp z1Pq65EEMD99FtH3Qh6hQQ85gY7/ne5xOtCMfc= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id E3D0D11C28A; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1381430466.14387.32509497.13949CED@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: lS83cRp10GJwwYLGcVFRIsHvqsNYAd26mj/dh82uAZ7j 1381430466 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-ce174988 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 and zfsd Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:41:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: <5256E680.4000008@allanjude.com> References: <5256B761.4050301@gmail.com> <1381421583.19140.32451849.084D8E32@webmail.messagingengine.com> <5256E2D5.4060101@allanjude.com> <5256E680.4000008@allanjude.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 18:41:08 -0000 On Thu, Oct 10, 2013, at 12:40, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2013-10-10 13:26, Alan Somers wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Allan Jude wrote: > >> On 2013-10-10 12:13, Mark Felder wrote: > >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013, at 10:24, Alan Somers wrote: > >>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Johan Hendriks > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> When i started using ZFS on FreeBSD I quickly found out that hot spares are > >>>>> not possible on FreeBSD. > >>>>> I was told that with zfsd it should be possible and that it would be > >>>>> included in FreeBSD 10. > >>>>> > >>>>> Is there some info about the zfsd function and how it could be used? > >>>> zfsd is currently not in FreeBSD/head and won't make it into 10, but > >>>> you can still get the source code from its project branch. It's being > >>>> used in production by at least two companies. > >>>> > >>> So FreeBSD is going to have inferior ZFS management compared to > >>> Solaris/Illumos/etc for another 2+ years? Why are things like this > >>> allowed to miss releases? > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> ZFSd was a big topic of discussion at the EuroBSDCon 2013 dev summit (3 > >> weeks ago). There is a lot of collaboration going on, to bring in some > >> work done by vendors like SpectraLogics. This is the type of feature > >> that can be assed in 10.1, it won't have to wait for 11. > >> > >> You can see Robert Watsons talk "How FreeBSD Works" to see why releases > >> are based on date, rather than on feature completion (because things are > >> never "finished") > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Allan Jude > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Due to popular demand, I have located a round toit. I'm currently > > working on rebasing the zfsd project branch to head, after which I'll > > push SpectraLogic's recent changes. > See, all you have to do is complain loudly enough :p > I was sad more than anything. I'd been waiting for zfsd since the project was announced. :-) I'm glad to know we won't have to wait until 11.0.