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Date:      Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
To:        Joerg Wunsch <joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de>
Cc:        freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Trouble with SCSI Streamer
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107111044250.5766-100000@beppo>
In-Reply-To: <200107110654.f6B6sFp40894@uriah.heep.sax.de>

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On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Joerg Wunsch wrote:

> Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com> wrote:
> 
> > No, I don't agree. A lot of QIC tape drives don't get emulated (it
> > has to be emulated because they cannot actually *do* variable
> > blocksize) blocksizes right.
> 
> We've been there before, Matt.  /All/ current tape drives have to

Yes, and I didn't agree with some of the conclusions. Yes, all
tape drives 'emulate'. The QIC manufacturers, from my experience,
don't do a good job of it.

Let's cut this short. If you're willing to take over SA maintenance,
please say so. I sure am not doing that great of a job. If you take
it over, you can change the default to that which you thinkis best.

> emulate variable length recording.  The last drives that could do it
> natively were the reel-to-reel half-inch drives, and Stephen probably
> owns the single one of them that is working under FreeBSD. ;-)  All
> other drives, no exception, have some internal hardware blocking,
> usually between 1 KB and 8 KB, for the media blocks.  Yet, you don't
> usually notice this since they all provide a successful illusion of
> variable-length recording to the outside.
> 
> QIC-320 and above are no exception to this.  All of them provide a
> variable length emulation.  The only QIC drives that don't are (some)
> QIC-150 drives (and even for those that do, you would not want to use
> it there since the on-tape implementation is horrible and wasteful).
> 
> So in general, you can safely default to variable length recording
> except for QIC-150 media (and well, for QIC-24 (60 MB), but i doubt
> anybody's using that anymore).  This is what the pre-CAM tape driver
> did, and nobody complained by that time.  It just works, and is IMHO
> what other operating systems are doing as well.
> 
> There's one marginal difference in the variable-length emulation of
> QIC vs. other media types, in that QIC can only handle at most one
> logical block within a physical block. (*)  So if you try to block your
> tape with some odd size that is not a multiple of the 1 KB media block
> size, you're going to waste space.  Other media can stuff parts of a
> logical block inside one media block.  But this is a pathologic case,
> useful and used block sizes for tapes are typically 10 or 32 KB
> anyway.
> 
> (*) No rule without an exception: if you use 512-byte fixed length
> recording, they can stuff two logical records into one media block.
> 
> -- 
> cheers, J"org               .-.-.   --... ...--   -.. .  DL8DTL
> 
> http://www.sax.de/~joerg/                        NIC: JW11-RIPE
> Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)
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