From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 17 20:15:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F231737B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:15:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Received: by vnode.vmunix.com (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 3DE4A11; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vnode.vmunix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EAA49A13; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:15:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Coleman To: Greg Lehey Cc: core@daemonnews.org, newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [dn-core] Re: Daemonnews Magazine In-Reply-To: <20010418104926.G80877@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Has anyone received any Daemonnews Magazines through the subscription > > yet? The only issue I have received was January, and I had to beg to get > > that one. > > > > Am I just unlucky, or is everyone else in the same boat? The only problem at this point is the length of time it takes the US postal service to deliver bulk rate mail. International subscribers got thier magazines delivered first class, because they don't offer bulk rate, but it seems to take about the same amount of time. The January/February issue had real problems. The subscription list was messed up and the mailing house didn't report it to us, they sent the garbled subscriptions anyway. We had no way to tell who did or didn't receive the subscriptions, and finally we decided to mail everyone of our subscribers an extra copy of the January/Febuary issue with March/April issue. We also changed printers because we felt the quality of the January/February issue wasn't up to the standards required. We switched mailing houses at the same time and I am confident that everyone on the list will receive their magazine. I am encouraged that people are anxious to receive the magazines and you won't be disappointed. They are very high quality and only improving. However, I am a bit discouraged by the lack of subscribers. To be perfectly honest, we have 800 subscribers, nearly half of them are International. I can't see us keeping the print magazine alive if more people don't take an interest in it. $24.95 isn't that big a price to pay to have a BSD magazine. Daemon News has a total of four part time employees who handle the shipping and office duties, so we aren't getting rich off this. Everyone else is volunteer. The magazine is expensive to print and we have had to eat a lot of the cost. FreeBSD has a purported userbase of 2.5 million and 800 subscribers is what percentage of that? Add in NetBSD, OpenBSD, Darwin and BSD/OS. Its time to start advocating. We started DN to be the resource of the BSD community. We have put in three years worth, with little to no pay. Its time for the community to start supporting the magazine. So, get on IRC, e-mail your friends, drop by the user groups and tell everyone to subscribe to the magazine. If you want to try before you buy a subscription, we have single issues available on www.bsdmall.com. -Chris Coleman Daemon News http://www.daemonnews.org http://www.bsdmall.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message