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Date:      Fri, 9 Sep 2011 14:32:00 +0000
From:      Alexander Best <arundel@freebsd.org>
To:        Paul Ambrose <ambrosehua@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: excessive use of gettimeofday(2) and other syscalls
Message-ID:  <20110909143200.GA26573@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAMwoQQ46p8oDFVX==Unrf2k2Mh70vtU5HniV7PZYLY5tBujHjA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri Sep  9 11, Paul Ambrose wrote:
> what version of chromium are you using?
> I use chromium-13.0.782.215 on amd64 8.2-stable, the gettimeofday call is
> far less than 20000 per second, about 20 per second, but I notice old
> version has this bug, but latest version has fixed it. Maybe you should
> update your chromium and try again.

i'm running chromium-13.0.782.220 and

sudo ktrace -di -tc -p1758; sleep 1; sudo ktrace -C; sudo kdump|grep gettimeofday|wc -l

gives me 3056. so the number has decresed, yet i don't see why chromium needs
to call gettimeofday(2) or any library function that triggers it more than 3000
times a second.

also

sudo ktrace -di -tc -p1758; sleep 1; sudo ktrace -C; sudo kdump|wc -l

is returning 16695. that also seems like a pretty high syscall count in
general for only 1 second.

cheers.
alex

> 
> Firefox 5 and 6 has more gettimeofday call than 20000 per second on my
> amd64-8.2-stable box.
> 
> 2011/9/7 Alexander Best <arundel@freebsd.org>
> 
> > On Wed Sep  7 11, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> > > On 2011-Sep-06 16:44:48 -0600, Manish Vachharajani <
> > manishv@lineratesystems.com> wrote:
> > > >Under 7.3 (haven't checked 8 or 9) this issue crops up because the
> > > >time system call calls gettimeofday under the hood (see
> > > >lib/libc/gen/time.c).  As a result, the kernel tries to get an
> > > >accurate subsecond resolution time that simply gets chopped to the
> > > >nearest second.
> > >
> > > Under 8.x and later, time(3) uses clock_gettime(CLOCK_SECOND,...)
> > > rather than gettimeofday().  This is intended to be much cheaper
> > > than gettimeofday().
> > >
> > > On 2011-Sep-06 21:15:55 -0400, Rayson Ho <raysonlogin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >IMO, the time returned by gettimeofday does not need to be high
> > > >precision. There are higher resolution time APIs on Linux and I
> > > >believe the application programmers know when to use the slower but
> > > >more accurate clock API.
> > >
> > > There are 3 standard APIs for returning time of day:
> > > time(3) provides second precision
> > > gettimeofday(2) provides microsecond precision
> > > clock_gettime(2) provides nanosecond precision
> > >
> > > By default, FreeBSD attempts to provide resolution as close as
> > > possible to the precision - which makes the 2 system calls fairly
> > > expensive.  In order to reduce the cost where the resolution isn't
> > > important, FreeBSD provides several non-standard clock types for
> > > clock_gettime(2).  This approach differs from Linux - and it seems
> > > that there is a non-trivial body of code that assumes that calling
> > > gettimeofday() is very cheap.
> > >
> > > There is probably a good case for an API that provides a resolution
> > > of the order of a tick but there is no standard for this.
> >
> > chromium is triggering ~20.000 gettimeofday(2) calls per second on my
> > machine.
> > i'm running CURRENT on amd64.
> >
> > cheers.
> > alex
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Jeremy
> >
> >
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