From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Sep 6 05:09:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400A1A9DF2A for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 05:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x229.google.com (mail-oi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01D436CD for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 05:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x229.google.com with SMTP id w78so79355633oie.3 for ; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 22:09:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uj0HUFyz4n/Sv8wUcyoSeAJlEMb9AhOp+xTnrBgSp8I=; b=FoFuoWfugzDluSdkpPGQZkLTTipg8rEcPRY+AqaI+rlCiJ1VLHZrOUKcBbydwp8U7L tvgMdWT66i04DRZqDRWMVToK1l2mmh1DSSYB5q0Wa+olXvOjGqPVjsCGUzAwQhLn7VVM 3DFh3o23SS9CZi6ncrEo43xafje7JlMOcbfstNV0DfybTlsg5zx9c10/rSDLXYLYxp/c NBDjGreO44+Vip54OMVrgQy2haahKI0OK8a55Y40uVFoIawj7HksFFJPpFIri2vLi/Pl lK3z98dha/n75xtzf1V9wCKNhTfSFoxDETDBaRPqT0OkrDFJc1xE3hRQdfFS1Eikp++B eR3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uj0HUFyz4n/Sv8wUcyoSeAJlEMb9AhOp+xTnrBgSp8I=; b=eO/lPu7ZkFKt8NEUzRllTO+N6kpeB9d13uzyLETdYGZb5J2z4yNHheWo3wueTXN/6a F/J2EWewoTaPQMCDatjX0287W0OdFEOwB0fKD++GUSpRpQinFnuIgv/baiVj67TcDB9H ionM+26faKmLBtVnsnGnXp5eI5p6r2YwLCD/heMJU7pNbAMQnAKar8dWfL/e1oZE1oH7 ozYnB7vMrPA/bkL5MIElrrSntotuMl44hRtHpvNVNWqqwHUKG0BP2/kHcsTs2xCeVatw YozCLVZ/lC5xuywQum07pLgmWxLGxdQfVzWIPRkOcRttf703gew2BMJq/A9FjBAHFRcm K0Rg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwNcvU4QV4Uyd8XG8XFFm4CsfdJusDHvm8cn6Kh4Kcio8sva0qt+80+7eGYTDgQOBct6uE3H7gE4YIHE1Q== X-Received: by 10.36.124.141 with SMTP id a135mr26023408itd.25.1473138587457; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 22:09:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.36.141.129 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Sep 2016 22:09:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Adrian Chadd Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 22:09:46 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: OX4v6R7tXJhXBqHGycVb-kTJnxQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Arcan [0.5.1] on FreeBSD/KMS To: "bbjowhn ." Cc: freebsd-current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2016 05:09:49 -0000 Hey, this looks really cool! -a On 5 September 2016 at 06:25, bbjowhn . wrote: > I'm guessing most of you seeing this post aren't too familiar with the > project, so I'll start with something of a synopsis. > > Arcan is a mix between a streaming realtime graphics (and audio) processo= r, > a game engine and a display server. It has been in development under the > radar for about a decade, patiently awaiting the time where lower level > access to accelerated graphics hardware starts becoming bearable. > > As a display server, it has most of the hardcore features in place since = a > while back, i.e. hot-pluggable multi-displays with different orientation, > mixed densities and subpixel layout, mouse, keyboard, game devices, > trackpads, crash recovery, suspend and resume, clipboard, screen sharing, > streaming and so on. > > One of the key differences to say, X.org is that the role of the 'window > manager' has been moved into an authoritative Lua VM and it's the scripts > (or collection of scripts) that you chose to run which defines permitted > behaviour in terms of input and output routing and response. This also > means that it can fit many roles: display manager, virtual terminals or > just an image viewer if that's all you need -- with a pretty compact set = of > dependencies. > > Among its downsides: it's still missing an external protocol (though > there's an internal one used for process separation of sensitive tasks, f= or > providing a terminal and compatibility with some specific targets of > personal importance, like QEmu and --hopefully soon-- Bhyve) so > compatibility options are still limited. The simple reason being that I a= m > waiting to see which one of the available ones (X, Spice, Mir, Wayland, > ...) turns out to be the least painful option :-) > > Starting with the version in the subject (0.5.1), it's up and running on > FreeBSD with an input driver using syscons/sysmouse (and respective > keymaps). The reason I'm bothering people here is simply that I'm looking > for more people interested in hammering out the details with the BSD > integration and packaging. > > There is so much more to cover -- but if anyone is curious hare are some > points of reference: > > Documentation on internals (including FreeBSD setup specifics) roadmaps, > etc: > https://arcan-fe.com and https://github.com/letoram/arcan/wiki > > A 'talking slide' high-level presentation: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D07nqZIFRDJg > > A 'toy' desktop environment from a few years ago showing some of the craz= y > things that can be done: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3O40cPUqLbU > > The more serious desktop environment ('durden') that I am using myself: > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=3DPLGqpKIeZOSp6quf6CmMOr91Tmj4Uppyo= R > > Regards, > Bj=C3=B6rn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= "