From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 18 19:16:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACA816A4CE for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 19:16:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C23943D49 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 19:16:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 32CCB148DB; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:16:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:16:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Linimon X-X-Sender: linimon@pancho To: drhodus@machdep.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:03:43 +0000 cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Public Access to Perforce? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 19:16:02 -0000 On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, David Rhodus wrote: > The trustedbsd trees are the only thing exported there, well for other > than some mostly dead trees. None of the TLS, AMD64, NETSMP, and who > knows what else since its not redly a public forum. A lot of it is people's private experiments, some of which would be difficult to merge into -current. > So with perforce development software, fbsd will become extra stable > hence removing the need for the -current tree ? No one has said any such thing, either about stability or removing the need for -current. That's just silly. The perforce trees are temporary staging areas and sandboxes. > The perforce.freebsd.org web site is a marsh pit to navigate. I think > more people would be content If the site could be cleaned up and the > method of offering a .tar.gz file of every tree on the hour for > download via the website was added. I guess I can't see why anyone interested in tracking those changes hourly would not want to work towards getting themselves a commit bit, so they can particpate in those changes as well as others. This would be like saying "I'm willing to put in a tremendous amount of work, but then not the extra work to go the next step." Why? Robert Watson has already said that the intention is to make these trees visible on a website, and offered to give you access to patches in the meantime. How this amounts to a conspiracy, in your viewpoint, is not clear to me. As with anything else in open-source, if you think there absolutely must be an open-source replacement for Perforce, please feel free to write one, or find an existing project and join it. mcl