From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 20 16:59:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A5F16A4D0; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:59:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA72D43D2F; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:59:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9KGwJTm031961; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:58:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:58:39 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20041020.105839.100358845.imp@bsdimp.com> To: keramida@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20041020154545.GA15763@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <41767CF1.2020005@FreeBSD.org> <20041020154545.GA15763@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: What do people think about not installing a stripped /kernel ?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:59:51 -0000 In message: <20041020154545.GA15763@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Giorgos Keramidas writes: : That's not just cheap. It's dirt cheap, if you ask me. Bearing : this in mind, saving a little space in /boot/kernel is hardly worth : the effort and the trouble one has to go through in order to locate : or compile a debugging kernel when a bug creeps up. But the time it takes me to resize / to accomidate the larger requirements of the kernel will easily swamp the cost of the disk. It usually takes me about 3 hours to do the conversion if all goes well, 10 or more if something bad happens during it. This can easily add up to hundreds or thousands of dollars depending on who has to sit around waiting. But that's why it has to be a knob to turn it off: Sometimes the dirt cheap analysis that you sight is wrong. Warner