From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Nov 4 13:36: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139AA37B401 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B6B43E42 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:36:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0242.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.242] helo=mindspring.com) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 188ot5-0003Sk-00; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:35:59 -0800 Message-ID: <3DC6E7E9.7820AA05@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:34:33 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jgrosch@mooseriver.com Cc: Cliff Sarginson , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why Use a Daemon as a Symbol since it alienates many? References: <11.162dca8.2af6b3fa@aol.com> <3DC55F74.4000403@cs.umu.se> <3DC62FAF.9053A5F8@ene.asda.gr> <20021104024422.A6945@FreeBSD.org> <20021104135214.GA2501@raggedclown.net> <3DC6D916.EE5B85DC@mindspring.com> <20021104211810.GA99075@mooseriver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Josef Grosch wrote: > > Speaking of which, the fact that the daemon has 3 fingers instead of > > 4 is probably offensive to the Japanese market. 8-). > > Ummmm, Can you explain why ? 1) Cultural bias against physical deformity (see the movie "Rising Sun"). 2) Negative association with reputed Yakuza practice which involved the number of fingers one had before and after joining and/or failing a superior. When Whistle was first selling InterJets into Japan, and had entered into a partnership with NTT, NTT made Whistle change the appearance of the various agents for cultural reasons (the original agents had no facial features, and U.S. "cartoon hands", which are 3-fingers and a thumb). My personal preference would have been Anime-style images. It avoids the facial features problem by giving the images "Bubblegum Crisis" style masks. 8-). FWIW, there seems to be no problem with the BSD daemon, which in Japanese terms be, I think, considered an Oni (demon), from which there are not a lot of negative connotations, particularly after TAKAHSHI Rumiko's "Uresai Yatsura" series about the Oni (alien) "Lum", who was portrayed as an attractive young woman in love with a human young man named "Ataru Moroboshi" (a pun in Japanese, meaning "to be hit on the head by a falling star). She was the precursor to the Pokeman "Pika-chu" (IMO - ability to electically shock, etc.), which was a blatant rip-off. 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message