From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Jan 22 0:19:27 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127C937B401 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:19:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1951643F43 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:19:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0M8JFMW026863; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:19:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0M8JOgZ010997; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:19:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0M8JN27010996; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:19:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:19:23 -0800 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Nicolas Souchu Cc: Alexander@Leidinger.net, arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbusifying kbd? Message-ID: <20030122081923.GA10985@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20030119225129.A6948@armor.fastether> <20030119233031.GA24377@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030120074638.A11055@armor.fastether> <20030120222027.GA597@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <3E2D173C.3040507@graphics.cs.uni-sb.de> <20030122091519.B6700@armor.fastether> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030122091519.B6700@armor.fastether> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 09:15:19AM +0100, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:47:40AM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > > [KGI] > > > > > I took a quick look at it. I'm not opposed to having graphics support > > > in the kernel. The problem I think I see is that we probably have > > > enough interest to make standard VGA work, but never really have the > > > people or interest to keep up with the latest and greatest graphics > > > engine. So, I think this would be useful only in a model where the > > > graphics drivers are contributed and the X server makes use of it. > > > So, if XFree86 changes to this model, then I see potential... > > > > Chicken and egg problem... as far as I remember (I looked at it looong > > ago) they have a X server too... or at least they want to provide one. > > KGI provides a X server accelerated (PhoneiX) implementation not based on X. On > the other hand GGI (http://www.ggi-project.org), the user library going > with KGI does provide XFree86 (called XGGI) running) on top of the KGI > driver framework without its own drivers. Do I understand correctly that "without its own drivers" means that XFree86 doesn't have its own drivers and thus that the kernel driver is the hardware driver that's being used (though KGI)? -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message